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Thanks, they are great fish- 14 of them in there, with two dominate males co distantly showing off and sparing. Always active and spawning in my tank. I have a pair of the apistos so keeping my fingers crossed.

This is my first ever black water tank and I am quite excited about it.

The mopani wood is leaching a lot of tannins, but I also added some min catapa leaves today. Also considering an order from tanninaquatics.com, but have not yet pulled the trigger.

The twigs are oak from my backyard.



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Thanks, they are great fish- 14 of them in there, with two dominate males co distantly showing off and sparing. Always active and spawning in my tank. I have a pair of the apistos so keeping my fingers crossed.

This is my first ever black water tank and I am quite excited about it.

The mopani wood is leaching a lot of tannins, but I also added some min catapa leaves today. Also considering an order from tanninaquatics.com, but have not yet pulled the trigger.

The twigs are oak from my backyard.


Tannin Aquatics is great, Iíve ordered from them twice. I generally donít buy leaves though as oak leaves work great and theyíre free.


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Tannin Aquatics is great, Iíve ordered from them twice. I generally donít buy leaves though as oak leaves work great and theyíre free.


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That is good to know- anything specific you recommend from them?

And as for oak leaves, I have a tree in the backyard so I am just waiting for then to reach that brown state to use in my tank. I tried plucking some a few weeks back when they were still green, and they just stayed green.

Do you have any advice on collecting them?



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That is good to know- anything specific you recommend from them?

And as for oak leaves, I have a tree in the backyard so I am just waiting for then to reach that brown state to use in my tank. I tried plucking some a few weeks back when they were still green, and they just stayed green.

Do you have any advice on collecting them?


Not really, I just buy whatever I feel looks the best like the pods. As for collecting leaves, I just walk through the yard and grab them. Really any leaves work but the oaks tend to last for a real long time.


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Not really, I just buy whatever I feel looks the best like the pods. As for collecting leaves, I just walk through the yard and grab them. Really any leaves work but the oaks tend to last for a real long time.


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Good to know- I have oak that take forever to fall, but red maple as well. Thanks for the advice!



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Well I was at the local auction a couple weeks ago and got some new Apistogramma. They were labeled as wild caught Cacatuoides and looking at them through the bag it seemed legit. Once I got them home and out of the bag it was quickly revealed that they were not Cacaís. Turns out I got some wild caught Norberti. The female had a sunken belly and looked horrible, so Iíve been treating the tank for intestinal parasites from day one. Sheís seems to be on the mend and I have my fingers crossed. Pictures are from the day I brought them home.
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The Norberti have finally settled in. I was ready to give up on this pair due to the male was always violently harassing the female. Last week that all changed when I looked in the tank and saw them playing nice together and they seem bonded now. The female is now feeding voraciously, is healthy and colored up.



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I have had this pair of trifasciata for about a month or so. For the first two weeks the male was being very territorial towards the female, chasing her every chance he had, and her colors were quite grey. I started to wonder if I had a sneaker. Then one day she turned yellow, the territorial behavior stopped and a few weeks later there was a small spawn. I'm not sure where they egg laying happened or when but one evening saw her with 3-4 swimmers. Next day they were gone and the male was back to being aggressive.


Photos are from Sunday with th fry. Maybe you can see one above the root there to the right. And a FTS from around the time the fish were added.

My goal is not to have a breeding tank but would like them to have the opportunity to be successful raising their spawn.

I have 3 otos, 6 amano, 6 CRS, 5 rasbora, 2 apisto, 1 SAE, plans to get 3 more rasbora and 12 pygmy cory, and maybe another female apisto.

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I have had this pair of trifasciata for about a month or so. For the first two weeks the male was being very territorial towards the female, chasing her every chance he had, and her colors were quite grey. I started to wonder if I had a sneaker. Then one day she turned yellow, the territorial behavior stopped and a few weeks later there was a small spawn. I'm not sure where they egg laying happened or when but one evening saw her with 3-4 swimmers. Next day they were gone and the male was back to being aggressive.


Photos are from Sunday with th fry. Maybe you can see one above the root there to the right. And a FTS from around the time the fish were added.

My goal is not to have a breeding tank but would like them to have the opportunity to be successful raising their spawn.

I have 3 otos, 6 amano, 6 CRS, 5 rasbora, 2 apisto, 1 SAE, plans to get 3 more rasbora and 12 pygmy cory, and maybe another female apisto.


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I have had this pair of trifasciata for about a month or so. For the first two weeks the male was being very territorial towards the female, chasing her every chance he had, and her colors were quite grey. I started to wonder if I had a sneaker. Then one day she turned yellow, the territorial behavior stopped and a few weeks later there was a small spawn. I'm not sure where they egg laying happened or when but one evening saw her with 3-4 swimmers. Next day they were gone and the male was back to being aggressive.


Photos are from Sunday with th fry. Maybe you can see one above the root there to the right. And a FTS from around the time the fish were added.

My goal is not to have a breeding tank but would like them to have the opportunity to be successful raising their spawn.

I have 3 otos, 6 amano, 6 CRS, 5 rasbora, 2 apisto, 1 SAE, plans to get 3 more rasbora and 12 pygmy cory, and maybe another female apisto.
The next time you suspect a spawn, try some supplemental feeding, for both the fry and the adults. Might placate the male. They are notorious for eating fry in order to spawn again. Or, depending on the size of the tank you could add two more females. Otherwise the male will almost always eat the fry.

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First 2 are same fish, I think is a male, last 2 of the female? Still juveniles I think.

Female was picking on the male so I had to separate them. His color has improved, had a very stressed look to him and fins are healed up. When he gets larger I may reintroduce them.










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