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hey frrok. Its looking good. Pinnatifida is a tough one as you are finding out. Ive had the same issue and ended up pulling it. To only find it come back within weeks. It is quite aggressive and spreads quickly with runners. Your best bet is to just keep aggressively trimming it. You can get it to bush out a bit like any stem plant by cutting just above a node and it will send out new shoots. You can replant tops if you want.

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hey frrok. Its looking good. Pinnatifida is a tough one as you are finding out. Ive had the same issue and ended up pulling it. To only find it come back within weeks. It is quite aggressive and spreads quickly with runners. Your best bet is to just keep aggressively trimming it. You can get it to bush out a bit like any stem plant by cutting just above a node and it will send out new shoots. You can replant tops if you want.



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Thanks for the feedback. That's what Ive been doing but maybe not aggressive enough. I want to make sure it gives me the right look. I've also noticed that it grows better on hardscape rather the substrate. In the substrate it seems to grow slower.

I also googled some images and noticed that there is a few photos of it where it seems to grow smaller and much redder. But I'm not sure if that is a different species.


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Yea. I find that the runners send out there first sets of leaves are typically red and bushier. And it does grab hardscape very well and can actually be hard to pull off.

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Looking very nice!

I've got pinnatifada growing under some pretty high lights planted in substrate but most leaning against hardscape in the hope they'll attach.
I've only had them in for about a week and a half now but for me it seems that the new shoots are much more copper colored then the older leaves. It also grows more and more compact as it gets settled so high light does the job I'd say..

Frrok have you entered scapes in contests before?
mind taking a look at mine giving me some pointers?
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I've got pinnatifada growing under some pretty high lights planted in substrate but most leaning against hardscape in the hope they'll attach.

I've only had them in for about a week and a half now but for me it seems that the new shoots are much more copper colored then the older leaves. It also grows more and more compact as it gets settled so high light does the job I'd say..



Frrok have you entered scapes in contests before?

mind taking a look at mine giving me some pointers?

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Thank you. I have some pretty intense lighting also but it ramps up and down on a controller. Even the plants up closet to the light source don't appear to red. Definitely very lush though. I was considering extending the high light time. Jut to see what happens but I don't want to deal with algae. No algae right now.

I have entered the iaplc contest before. I'll check out your tanks.


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Very nice setup! I love the stand, looks very similar to one I built last summer,


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Very nice setup! I love the stand, looks very similar to one I built last summer,

Thanks. It's DIY.


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Cheers, ever got into the, what is it they show, top 2k?
They show some pretty impressive winning works on the ada website

Looks very organised, wish i could say the same, not enough space and time.

You say you've got a 10hour ramping light schedule, ever tried the afternoon break?
I've been into keeping fish and plants for 2 years now and learning by trial and error.
So far it's working out for me, you have any thoughts on the matter?

Sorry for straining you, it's very inviting to pluck someones brain that's a lot further.


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Nice setup. Your tank is looking great!
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Cheers, ever got into the, what is it they show, top 2k?
They show some pretty impressive winning works on the ada website

Looks very organised, wish i could say the same, not enough space and time.

You say you've got a 10hour ramping light schedule, ever tried the afternoon break?
I've been into keeping fish and plants for 2 years now and learning by trial and error.
So far it's working out for me, you have any thoughts on the matter?

Sorry for straining you, it's very inviting to pluck someones brain that's a lot further.
Sorry havent had the chance to reply to your Queries.

Yes, i have broken the top 2k in the iaplc and last year i did better than when i first entered(only entered twice)

Yes, My lights are controlled by a controller, its around 10 hours, they ramp up from 0%, peak at around 60%(whites only) then back down to 0%. My lights are very powerful 3w LEDS. at 100% it would be waaaay too much light. So as to know deal with the algae issues, I am running them low-medium light for now. I may experiment later with higher percentages and raise the light. I have done the afternoon break but only with a lo-tech non-co2 tank. Otherwise I don't see the point. You run the risk of burning out your solenoid shutting on and off frequently through out the day. When would you shut down the lights and co2, during the peak of the photoperiod when the plants are photosynthesizing heavily!?? Not worth it, IMO.

Trial and Error, the only way you get better is by failing and learning from your mistakes(just try not to kill any fish in the process). I've made tons of mistakes. But i am much more experienced now because of it.


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nice! congrats i suppose
do they give you any critique or explain why you get rated the way you do?
no worries no obligations here, we all have enough of those..

what you're saying about the lighting schedule makes sense. My initial goal with having a pause in my lighting was to enjoy the tank most myself. On in the afternoon to enjoy it when my afternoon is off and the same goes for the evening.

Doing it 4,2,4 was to stay closest to natural lighting, I've got led installed that I use for dimmer effects and is on full blast in the pause as to simulate a shade dropping over the whole thing midday.
There's 2 t5 39 watt purple and yellow bulbs that go for the full 4 n 4 and are also to create a sunrise set effect and there are 2 t5 45 watt 6k white bulbs for midday blast that go for 2 hours in the middle of each run.
Would you consider this too much light for my setup?

I never thought of the fact that now that I've got led in this tank I can enjoy it any time of the day anyway with the appropriate lighting.. I might switch this tank over to a single cycle a day and see how that goes with pearling etc. cos this does seem to happen most at the end of each 4hour run.
Will post a '3 week in' update soon, shall include the matter.

A couple of weeks ago i had my first co2 accident, this was with a diy set though, they are quite hard to regulate I've found.. Came home to find about 15 fish nearly unconscious on the surface. Lost a angelfish sadly but was in time to save the rest.


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