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Twilight besets us
Contents of a glass box rests
A good night to all


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Great twilight pic!
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Twilight besets us
Contents of a glass box rests
A good night to all
Love the planted tank haiku!

Reminds me of the Bashō classic:

And old pond
A frog jumps

Fuzuru ike (fools you care)
Kaeru tobikomu (cowards to become)
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Great twilight pic!
Yea! I had one of those moments that you and Gregg had. Just off of a water change and had only the back unit on while I lifted up the front one to give me access and saw the golden lloydelia and said .. heyyyy!

but what good is a calming pic without an accompanying amateur high school level haiku?

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Love the planted tank haiku!

Reminds me of the Bashō classic:

And old pond
A frog jumps

Fuzuru ike (fools you care)
Kaeru tobikomu (cowards to become)
Haha, I'm nowhere near that kind of level of serious about it. Shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as someone who has earned the right to have "classics." But thanks. I only do it to add some whimsy. As long as some folks find it entertaining, I'll try to do it as a mind exercise!

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It was time to roll some new micros!



So, I did some calculations and realized I was rolling with these amounts of dosing per 2 weeks -- kinda sorta. Always been a little lazy about the daily routine.
B 0.42 Cu 0.02 Fe 2.4 Mn 0.96 Mo 0.01 Ni 0.006 Zn 0.6
Look at that Fe! Well, the mid 2019 scuttlebutt about Fe is that's sort of excessive. So, the new mix has Fe down to 1.2 with everything else the same.
B 0.42 Cu 0.02 Fe 1.2 Mn 0.96 Mo 0.01 Ni 0.006 Zn 0.6

A half hour later futzing with granules: 250mls worth and ready to "roll!"





Also, coinciding with this is the decision to go "Front Loading" micros too. Sorta kinda went front loaded for 5 days last week already as water change was delayed for 5 days and I decided to ride on what was already in there after the previous 2 weeks of dosing. Wait, um, wow, might have to rethink my concentrations. I just poured 30mls in. It felt -- unnatural.


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I just poured 30mls in. It felt -- unnatural.
With Burr's micro mix
In the small planted fish tank
Dose more at low strength
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With Burr's micro mix
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so you're saying ... do NOT front load? at least not for only 20G?
mind you, even at 30ml, it was merely 0.6ppm Fe this round.

1.2 was calculated for both weeks cumulative.


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My high school level haiku was in response to the comment about adding 30 mL feeling unnatural, nothing more.
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My high school level haiku was in response to the comment about adding 30 mL feeling unnatural, nothing more.
In a view too close
did not see high school haiku
Oh, terrible fail!
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Beautiful! I will be doing a 75 gallon planted tank soon

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Oh, terrible fail!
the second line has 6 syllables. it is not a haiku!!
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Curious to hear about how the micros go- I want to join you on this journey, but I missed a water change this weekend with the beautiful weather and back to back weeks of travel. Maybe I'll get a good reset this weekend and give it a go!
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Can you wrap up your experience and make a conclusion of what to do and what not to do, for those who are just getting into the hobby?
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Can you wrap up your experience and make a conclusion of what to do and what not to do, for those who are just getting into the hobby?


Hi! @[email protected]

Well, I was asked a similar question about half a year ago about lessons learned from the tank, and this is how I answered...

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/1...l#post11147373

I reread it, just in case I thought differently, but I still feel the same about it, so I'll let you jump back to that post if you haven't seen it already. Be sure also, to go beyond that post into the Pro tips thread mentioned there. It was an innocent question that garnered a lot of useful tidbits from many experienced members of the board.

Ahh, what the heck, here's the pro tips thread for anyone else who wants to read it instead of my drivel
Planted Tank Members Pro Tips Thread! -- A veritable goldmine of thought nuggets!
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@Grobbins48, two weeks of front loading micros, 1 water change later, no noticeable cries of dissatisfaction from the plants yet.


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@Grobbins48, two weeks of front loading micros, 1 water change later, no noticeable cries of dissatisfaction from the plants yet.
I am liking this story so far!
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What a surprise.



The left front crypt is a flamingo after all. After weeks of just looking generic with those maroon roundish leaves, it pushes up a pink one! And gooo osmocote. As I was telling Phil, I "acquiesced to these petulant" crypts by burying a good 20 osmocote balls .. single balls! not whole tabs! .. around the area of the three crypts and am seeing new leaves being pushed up pretty fast now. Previously, those things only pushed up leaves when it lost them so it was a net gain of nothing. Kinda just there in limbo. not growing, not dying.

but, all is not well in the tank. From the seat of my pants @Grobbins48, I'm not sure if front loading micros is working out too perfectly. The majority of the plants seem to be fine, but now that we're a few weeks in, some of the testier plants are not too happy.

Check out the tips of these guys



A little out of focus and excuse the background floating weed. But this is "Red Nesea" being a bit unhappy. Crinkled tips.

Even the flamingos, this shot a bit after the earlier above shot.


Note the same left side front one. It pushed up a new leaf even, but the new leaves just won't open up -- stays scrolled up.

Some other guys I didn't take a pic of just overall didn't look so juicy and happy. Even midway last week, I ended up giving an extra shot of micros and then macros. So compromise and do a 2x/week dose? Probably will go back to daily drudgery of daily micros for a bit to see if I can get this new growth more consistent before I try that. Have to figure out if the flamingo just ran out of osmocote or if it's the front loaded micros.

And finally, nothing like hearing Gregg's chiding voice when I'm slacking on my water change. Delayed by a week, but was pushed out this morning.

Post water change happiness.



Managed to luck out and got a pretty decent shot of the celebes



might have to change my avatar pic!


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