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You know, that seems very efficient. I might just need to look into that myself for my next CO2 refill.
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If only my local Airgas sold beer too... Then again, welding supplies and booze probably aren't the best combination.
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As usual, thanks for the kind words, all.. not possible without this forum so I share my thanks back to the community.

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Not only finding the balance for a successful tank, but finding the balance between tank and life is very hard to achieve. Something it looks like you achieved....Well done my friend. I hope to find that soon
Hah @KZB, you don't have to be too wistful. It may all be an illusion. This is what I resort to. Posting at 5:00am after being woken up by my progeny as the tank and house is starting to fall into disarray again!

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You know, that seems very efficient. I might just need to look into that myself for my next CO2 refill.
Unfortunately, it sometimes gets expensive because he procures very interesting stuff.



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If only my local Airgas sold beer too... Then again, welding supplies and booze probably aren't the best combination.
I used to go to a welding shop too that did some beverage fills on the side, but the guy who "knows about co2" seems usually unavailable and they would chill my tank for a good 45 mins before filling. They swore this was necessary. Refills became a chore -- sort of. Needed planning for taking the trip, finding a place to kill an hour, then returning. Then there was this time, they did that, filled for what seemed to be 20 mins and I STILL went home with a low tank. Then, it was kismet that this keg guy popped up closer to home and I happened to be looking for someone to do refills. Dude shocked me when he chilled the tank for 10 mins .. sometimes even less! So, while we were in conversation to pick beers, he would just casually stroll over to the freezer, grab my tank, and fill in what must have been 20 seconds, and weigh. I had my suspicions about the short chill and fill as the other place drew this process out immensely. This guy was confident, showed me the scale, and sent me home. After many times of repeating this, and always giving me the "baker's dozen" equivalent of a fill, I've learned that the welding shop just didn't have qualified guys for co2! Imagine that. At the heart of it, I think it was because they were too lazy to keep their big tank of co2 filled properly. So, there you have it, if you're ever in my area, go to the The Keg King. Give him business. Especially if you run that kind of business. He sells full kegs too for parties and restaurants. Help keep him around for my benefit. I will thank you too!


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So it's not a "planted tank" update unless I actually talk about the tank right? How dare I fill my journal up with inane chatter about beer, life, and kids? I must not disappoint those here for tank updates!!



The difference between April and May may not ( hehe, may may .. ) look like much and bonus points if you're bored enough to do a what's different before reading on .




but in reality, there were much changed. First of all, there were many spare hours spent digging this hot mess out of the tank ..



That quantity was repeated at least 3 times. That moss was inanely intertwined with everything and it was painstakingly separated back out wherever possible. Clumps of hairgrass and stuff were parted from the mess and replanted. The project was just too immense to tackle in one go so I just did small sections whenever I stole some time. Was probably thankless in general appearance. The only visual clues are subtle. The hairgrass and microswords are in their own batches now, the monte carlo is now in a 'patch' to give some room for other plants. But most importantly, the middle ground area of plants have been cleared up to provide more swim space for ..

didja see it? sleight of hand! misdirection! It's new fauna!!! + 115%



For the first time in probably over a year, I've acquired some new fish. Wife has always complained about lack of space (i.e. jungle) + lack of fish. "Where's the fish in the tank??" "I don't feed *your* tank because there's no fish to feed" etc.
So, seeing some recent posts from @Greggz and @Immortal1 about the little blue-eyed rainbows had reminded me about my bunch a few years back ...


Goodness!! Look at that crazy algae!

(sidenote: youtube is horrendous for video editing. I mean, I understand free stuff is not necessarily good stuff, but in this case, it sure feels like free stuff is intentionally hobbled so you don't use it. .. all I wanted to do is remove some audio. Really. I'd love to hear the explanation of why that is so hard -- even if it was a business decision. You can choose tracks to "blend" with your audio, you can clearly muck around with the audio track. Where's the piece that just simply lets you erase it?? Good thing someone told me about openshot )


So, at my last Gold Coast Aquarium Society fish show a few months back, I had become aware and had visited a new LFS called The Aquarium Show. I saw the rainbows then, but was sort of hesitant to spend the money for them. I mean, I'm used to spending 99 cents for fish! Ok, ok, I went as far as 2.99 for cardinals and/or glowlight tetras. Anyway, dude had a very clean and beautiful shop and I was compelled to support local, so I went back for some of those mini "bows." Pretty cool place, pretty legit guy. Go check him out. Please also help keep him in business for my benefit ..

Unfortunately, they were out of forktail blueeyes, so I settled for celebes.








Wife wanted some neon rainbows, so I obliged.







Will probably go back for some blue-eyes when they do get them. Granted, these guys are no specialized fancy rainbows, but eh, it's a start

annndd, that brings us up to 2 weeks already since the last 'tank update'. hopefully, I'll get a chance to do some trimming and pull off a water change by the time you guys read this.


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Hi @ipkiss,

I've kept the 'fancy' rainbows and have learned to appreciate the 'plain' Melanotaenia praecox “Pagai”. If I obtain quality fish of any species I appreciate them. What I truly like about M. praecox is their strong 'schooling' habit, they don't 'wander' as singles very often in my tank.

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So it's not a "planted tank" update unless I actually talk about the tank right? How dare I fill my journal up with inane chatter about beer, life, and kids? I must not disappoint those here for tank updates!!



The difference between April and May may not ( hehe, may may .. ) look like much and bonus points if you're bored enough to do a what's different before reading on .




but in reality, there were much changed. First of all, there were many spare hours spent digging this hot mess out of the tank ..



That quantity was repeated at least 3 times. That moss was inanely intertwined with everything and it was painstakingly separated back out wherever possible. Clumps of hairgrass and stuff were parted from the mess and replanted. The project was just too immense to tackle in one go so I just did small sections whenever I stole some time. Was probably thankless in general appearance. The only visual clues are subtle. The hairgrass and microswords are in their own batches now, the monte carlo is now in a 'patch' to give some room for other plants. But most importantly, the middle ground area of plants have been cleared up to provide more swim space for ..

didja see it? sleight of hand! misdirection! It's new fauna!!! + 115%



For the first time in probably over a year, I've acquired some new fish. Wife has always complained about lack of space (i.e. jungle) + lack of fish. "Where's the fish in the tank??" "I don't feed *your* tank because there's no fish to feed" etc.
So, seeing some recent posts from @Greggz and @Immortal1 about the little blue-eyed rainbows had reminded me about my bunch a few years back ...

https://youtu.be/qK51_7cx6Zs

Goodness!! Look at that crazy algae!

(sidenote: youtube is horrendous for video editing. I mean, I understand free stuff is not necessarily good stuff, but in this case, it sure feels like free stuff is intentionally hobbled so you don't use it. .. all I wanted to do is remove some audio. Really. I'd love to hear the explanation of why that is so hard -- even if it was a business decision. You can choose tracks to "blend" with your audio, you can clearly muck around with the audio track. Where's the piece that just simply lets you erase it?? Good thing someone told me about openshot )


So, at my last Gold Coast Aquarium Society fish show a few months back, I had become aware and had visited a new LFS called The Aquarium Show. I saw the rainbows then, but was sort of hesitant to spend the money for them. I mean, I'm used to spending 99 cents for fish! Ok, ok, I went as far as 2.99 for cardinals and/or glowlight tetras. Anyway, dude had a very clean and beautiful shop and I was compelled to support local, so I went back for some of those mini "bows." Pretty cool place, pretty legit guy. Go check him out. Please also help keep him in business for my benefit ..

Unfortunately, they were out of forktail blueeyes, so I settled for celebes.








Wife wanted some neon rainbows, so I obliged.







Will probably go back for some blue-eyes when they do get them. Granted, these guys are no specialized fancy rainbows, but eh, it's a start

annndd, that brings us up to 2 weeks already since the last 'tank update'. hopefully, I'll get a chance to do some trimming and pull off a water change by the time you guys read this.
Those Congo tetras are pretty amazing as well.
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Those Congo tetras are pretty amazing as well.
*were*

I said a *few* but it was more than a few years ago. Unfortunately, I didn't care for them so much at the time. I was delusionally trying to raise some shrimp in the tank and they were constantly a worry. I guess they were ok while they lasted. One lasted quite a while after the other but in time, even it moved on. If journal pics are correct, I had them from 2013 to 2016.
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Hi @ipkiss,

Almost every morning before the lights come on pairs are diving headfirst into the Eleocharis (hairgrass) in that picture - shortly thereafter the Corydoras sterbai are in there having breakfast. I'll probably breed them in the future however right now my 10 gallon fry tank has about a dozen Melanotaenia lacustris (Lake Kutubu / Turquoise) rainbowfish fry in it. I picked them up at the AGA convention and they seem to be doing well.
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I will never keep moss in a thickly planted tank ever again. Maybe not ever again period unless it's for animal breeding. Like yours, the stuff I had got everywhere and caused all sorts of issues. Once it's in a tank, it's in there for good. I had to do a significant substrate cleaning that involved sieving it to get fine sediment out and found moss fragments growing IN the substrate. I thought I'd gotten it all out after the last major purge and clean, but I guess not. From now on it's getting the Riccia treatment; any tiny little bit that shows up gets yanked immediately, no mercy. Best of luck with yours.
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Those are some beautiful pictures you took! Nice work!
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Looking awesome mate,
Truly a big fan of the chaos in these tanks. Jungle at its best and I love it!
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Not much for June. I guess no news is good news sometimes.

New fish are doing okay for the most part. There seems to be a celebes who's too clueless to eat or has something obstructing its throat. There's always one of those ...

Now that things are a little stable *knock on wood*, I have time to pay attention, enjoy, and nitpick. I didn't notice this previously but the crypts are not the happiest. Neither is mermaid weed. They're there and not dying, but they're also not flourishing. Interestingly, the main flamingo crypt shed most of its leaves, I swore it died, and suddenly, it pushed up two or maybe one daughter plant. Can't tell for sure on one of them. They look like they're in the right location for a flamingo daughter but the leaves look more like regular red wendtii.

So, since I'm no cutting edge experimenter, I'm probably enacting changes that guys on the Share your Dosing Thread has done half a year ago. I'm going to drop the K a little.

NPK: 4.80 3.60 9.30 is being changed to
NPK: 4.80 3.60 6.90 in a fresh macro mix.

and because I'm a lazy bum and don't change water unless it's 2+ weeks, it'll probably work out to
NPK: 10 7 14

+/- 2 depending if I drop another mini dose to stretch me to the next water change..

Oh! recently @Maryland Guppy has posted about dosing once per week. He's discovered that EDTA Fe from CSM+B and I'll assume DTPA is pretty darn stable. 5 days with no deterioration. So why the heck am I still doing micros daily? See these are ideas I'm down with. Anything to lessen my efforts! "Front Loading" (tm @Greggz ) micros here I come. I know I just said I'm not an experimenter, but this is for a good cause


Maybe with all the talk about osmocote balls, rich substrates, etc, I'm mulling dropping a couple beneath those crypts. I did have some in there a while back hmm...

Oh, Monte Carlo mat lifted like everyone else's due to lazy trimming. Only a matter of time. So, since I can't get the whole mat back in, I've just resorted to 'patches' and just sifting substrate on top of the edges and the middle to hold it down. I've seen some
lately about adding 'details' to a tank to make a it more interesting so I guess, here's a "few extra details".

Well, guess that's about it for now.


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I really enjoy the sense of depth in your tank. Not sure if it was intentional or not but everything draws me towards the open space in the top left. Very nice.
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I really enjoy the sense of depth in your tank. Not sure if it was intentional or not but everything draws me towards the open space in the top left. Very nice.
Coming from you, that's pretty high praise! Thanks! I've always enjoyed YOUR tank and aspire to be even half as fastidious in the way you keep your plants. Rest assured that any cool "technique" or design you see in that tank was not intentional. I am not that cool. Maybe all that scape browsing lately is paying off as the echoes of inspiration that I may have seen are starting to emerge.

I have been working on that moss wall lately and that's currently the point of growth. I did wonder about that space -- whether I liked it or not, whether I wanted the growth to close up the entire back. The space does 'feel right' and your noticing of it is now a vote for me to keep it.
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