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45p - Blue Ridge - seiryu iwagumi

Greeting everyone.
It's been a while since I have been active here. I recently began setting up an ADA 45P, typical seiryu iwagumi. Currently the tank is in dsm and will be flooded in a few weeks or sooner. I'm planning on adding various stem plants to the rear and some shorter midground plants in a few small areas of the scape. I'm using aquasoil amazonia with powder and normal varieties mixed together, in total about 7 liters was used. One inch in the front sloping up to 4 on the sides and 4.5 in the very middle. Lighting is currently a finnex planted plus 24/7 but I am unsure if it will be adequet in the long run. Enjoy!
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very nice layout. Can't wait to see the progression.
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I've made progress on this tank. It was filled and planted on Sunday afternoon. The plant species I am using are:
Rotala sp. Green
Rotala sp. H'ra
D. Diandra
Rotala macrandra sp. Mini
Hydrocoytle sp. Japan
Hemianthus callitrichoides

These are all plants from an existing setup. I've had trouble keeping the macrandra sp. Japan happy for a while, yet just after a few days in this new clean setup it is doing pretty well.
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Uh oh! Images from my last post never showed up. The tank has been filled and planted for one week now and it is growing great. Using Ada ferts and keeping the co2 well saturated. There are some small spots with what appears to be hair alage developing but nothing some spot treatment and an algae crew can't clean up. I didn't have the co2 high enough at the start but now its a little higher than 30ppm according to my drop checker. This setup I am running the co2 all day and night at a low bubble rate to avoid any times of day where there is not enough co2 in the water... My rotala macrandra has always shown deficiencies and I think it's co2 inconsistancy. I'm trying to rule that out. The eheim skimmer runs for 15 minutes every two hours. Seems to keep the scum away without degassing the tank too much.
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Tank has been doing well but I'm combating some nasty blue green algae... It's only growing in some low flowing area of the tank. My ottos do eat it which is weird as everywhere online says nothing will touch it. I've also got gda on most of my hc carpet. The carpet has had a hard time adjusting to the flood but there are visible runners all over the tank. Maybe I'll get around to uploading a photo.... Maybe not. My threads here on tpt seem to never get much critique. It's a shame because I remember this website being very acitve from 2006-2008...
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lack of critique likely means your scape is good, which it is imo.

but.. my 2c is to consider removing the top center rock. i don't think it's needed. atm you have an even number of rocks, which is 'bad'. with an even number the eye quickly sees 3 on one side and 3 on the other side and the viewing quickly ends. with an odd number of rocks your eye darts around more and for longer.
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lack of critique likely means your scape is good, which it is imo.

but.. my 2c is to consider removing the top center rock. i don't think it's needed. atm you have an even number of rocks, which is 'bad'. with an even number the eye quickly sees 3 on one side and 3 on the other side and the viewing quickly ends. with an odd number of rocks your eye darts around more and for longer.
Thank you Dantrasy. Big fan of your scape, I see images of your tank spread around Instagram all the time. I see what you mean with it being distracting, and through much visualization I see that it would be nice with additional plants there instead. This stone is my favorite of the bunch, but I do think I will remove it next time I trim and replant. I'm going for round bushes in this setup and can picture it without that stone while still looking good. I knew I was breaking the iwagumi rule with the even number of stones and it wasn't long for someone to spot it! ?
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Looking great so far! Great rock work. Or maybe try removing the small rock on the front right, and slightly moving the front center rock up the slope a little. The front rocks seem to be all on the same layer. I like the top center rock, and how it fits with the scape.

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Having trouble getting my HC to carpet. I think it had to do with a lack of light intensity from the planted+ 24/7's auto feature. I switched it to an eight hour photo period with a constant high par to try and bring out the reds in the macrandra. Just installed an inline diffusor, its been two days with higher co2 levels. Also got some algae issues :/ probably due to too much light from the 24/7 auto feature.... The plants don't seem to grow as well in the dimmer hours of the feature, yet the algae grew with ease. I'm also having trouble dosing enough nitrogen. Too much and the macrandra stunts and won't grow, too little and I get good red growth but all the green growing plants suffer. ADA ferts do not supply nitrogen.... Except for LIGHTS which has an insanely high ratio of no4 to po4. So I've been using step one, brightyk and side dosing po4, a little nitrogen and iron.
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Here it is on the 13th
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Used an h2o2 solution by spraying onto the plants during a water change today. Hit the glass and lily pipes with it, made a big difference on the rock.
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45p - Blue Ridge - seiryu iwagumi

I find the hardscape to be underwhelming and too manicured. You have 4 stones pointing towards the left diagonally and two countering that to the right. A general but not always true rule is to keep things in odd numbers, and having two even sets doesn't help. As it grew in, you lost a lot of the hardscape on the right and beyond softening it you erased it. I personally feel if you want to do this many stems in an iwagumi scape, you need to have very powerful and almost "intrusive" rock work in order to prevent them from being eaten up. As it stands now, I think wood would have been a better choice as the style is very reminiscent of Tom Barr and his Dutch scapes that use hardscape elements as separators. There's potential, and these are good rocks, but it can be better.
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