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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 08-11-2015, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
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10g jungle journey

Disclaimer - sorry if the text doesn't format right, I'm setting this up from my mobile.

So I decided to give the planted tank another go after mine somehow got nuked. I'm still unsure what happened but I saved all of the plants from the last go by growing them emersed. The last tank was a fluorite substrate and I hated it. Root tab, dosing, a pain to plant in. It was just horrible. So I decided to try a dirted tank, thanks to Dustin he got me hooked. I went to my local lowes, purchased a bag of MG organic. Took me a bit to sift it cause I used a window scree, but I got everything out, just dirt and it was perfect. So I filled the bottom of the tank, 1-1.5 inches of dirt, mixed some standard seachem fluorite into the dirt for iron I hope ( I know to much but I didn't realize it until after I filled it with water ) mistake number one. Mistake number two was I didn't wet the dirt at all before the cap. Just straight dry perfect dirt. I went on to cap with pool filter sand with about an inch. It's so much easier to plant into. But anyways I started with dhg ( I understand it'll grow in dirt just slowly, I'm okay with that ). Planted the front right corner about 5 inches out and 3 inches back. Than I placed the boulder ( rock ) with some java moss tied in place until it attaches ( If ). Than came the Ludwigia repens, before anyone says anything about started a dirted tank with them is not right, I know. It's all I had for fast growing stuff while my other goodies were in the mail. Anyways, I planted around 15 stems from my emersed set up. Mind you these plants came from a submerged life in the old tank, to almost dead in the emersed then made a killer come back grown above the water, and now there back under water. And there doing excellent so far. After than I started to look for some fast growers. I came up with jungle Val ( duh ) and dwarf sag. The sag came in today, and I just got it in the tank and it looks so awesome. I can't wait for it to grow in. The Val should be here any day now. Also the lights were running 12h a day to start, now its 5 hours on, 4 off, 5 on. Anyways onto the specs.


Specs -
- standard 10 gallon aquarium
- cheapo 50w heater ( shopping for a new one soon )
- 1x 26w 6500k CFL ( 9.5" to substrate )
- 1x 10" finnex planted+ ( 9.5" to substrate ) ( from previous nano I owned )
- cheap cartridge filter ( no cartridge, diy basket with sponge than biomax in a bag )
- Miracle-Gro organic potting mix
- pool filter sand

Any input, suggestion, comments, critisim, advice is welcome with open arms being my first dirt aquarium. But so far so good, and I'm really loving how the scape it coming with the driftwood not sinking and the stone in the corner. I'll be looking for more drift wood, but it's gotta be that perfect piece for the tank.
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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 08-11-2015, 10:34 PM
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One standard 10.5" brooder lamp is enough light for a 10g by many many tanks on here/w that for light. Using one 13W CFL bulb @ 6500K. 8-9 hrs is plenty.
Laterite would have added iron.
Just watch how it grows in and adjust the light if algae does start.

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One standard 10.5" brooder lamp is enough light for a 10g by many many tanks on here/w that for light. Using one 13W CFL bulb @ 6500K. 8-9 hrs is plenty.
Laterite would have added iron.
Just watch how it grows in and adjust the light if algae does start.
I completely agree with you about the single light being enough light. I've found a few articles on the Internet ( so it has to be true right? ) say that if you want red plants without injection co2, high light is required. And I understand that with high light and no co2 comes algea. And yeah I am getting slight hair algea which is why I lowered the photo period. Hopefully that'll cure it.
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So small update.
The night I started the tank I ordered a few plants from plants from evilbay. I bought 20 jungle Val from jpcubed123 for 10 dollars. In the package he suprised me with roughly 150 jungle val, and sandwich baggies full of more Ludwigia that was about two feet long, a bag full of hornwart, a bag full of hair grass that was about 15 inches long, and a bag of something else I couldn't make out the label cause it got damp in shipping and washed out. So back to the tank. I had a little bit of hair algae, so I started dosing api co2 booster to try and combat it. But from what I read I didn't plant enough. Hopefully with all these plants now the algae won't stand a chance. Also I've got Cryptocoryne wendtii "Red" and rotala rotundifolia on the way as well. I've still got two full 5 gallon pals of plants floating, so tomorrow I'll be dirting and planting a 29g I've got kicking around. Also I'm looking into diy co2, but without my l. Repens are turning red without co2. The tank is a little fuzzy from moving everything but that should settle. Just a little update for now.
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Oh also I forgot to add I got dwarf sag as well, planted in the front left. Can't wait for the at grow in as well.
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So today I went to the fish store I frequent, I can't say local cause its a 40 minute drive one way. And went in to find some MTS. He had a few, but than I remembered I had seen a pond snail last night during a water change. So the plan changed and I ended up getting 4 assassin snails. From what I seen they dig a bit, which is I wanted the MTS, to move my dirt around. So hopefully these dudes can cure it up alittle. And take care of the stupid pond snails. Few more weeks and I'll be starting to buy some fish hopefully. Also I planted a 29g with what I had left over from the evilbay order. It's full and super filthy. I plan I doing a few big water changes and hopefully that'll clear it up a bit. Also note my tub of dirt soaking.
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Also I'm looking into diy co2
Just thought it would interest you that there are 3 ways to do DIY Co2.
1. Paintball tank
2. Citric acid
3. Yeast which gives off the smell of beer

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Also I planted a 29g with what I had left over from the evilbay order. It's full and super filthy. I plan I doing a few big water changes and hopefully that'll clear it up a bit.
If that doesn't work get some Seachem Purigen off evilbay, and put it in a filter.
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Yeah I know about purigen. Love the stuff. But this is an outdoors tank I'm not to worried about it being dirty. No fish, just plants and sun. When the colder months come in I'll be moving it into a closet in my house with an led flood light on it. Than ill probably throw a filter, heater, etc on it. But for now I'm not super worried about a little cloud in the water. This morning it's a little milky still so I'm thinking the water changes will do the trick. And I'm looking into citric acid for co2 now cause of no smell.
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So here's the 29g outdoors holding tank I've got set up. Clearing up super nice. Jam packed with jungle val. Also I've got horn wart and Ludwigia free floating to soak some nutrients. And lastly there's some hair grass in there that's like 15 inches long. As for the 10g I got some rotala rotundifolia, I'll post some pictures later.
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I couldn't love "jungle" tanks any more.

After working again and again within the fastidious confines of a lovely Iwagumi, and the color layers of more than a few Dutchies - sometimes its just cool to have a jungle tank and let the swords rock on, let the crypts spread their gorgeous wings, and let the community of fishes complement the community of plants.

Love me some jungle tanks. I do.

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I couldn't love "jungle" tanks any more.

After working again and again within the fastidious confines of a lovely Iwagumi, and the color layers of more than a few Dutchies - sometimes its just cool to have a jungle tank and let the swords rock on, let the crypts spread their gorgeous wings, and let the community of fishes complement the community of plants.

Love me some jungle tanks. I do.

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I agree. But this being my first dirt tank I figured I'd go with something easy with a bunch of easy plants that'll fill in great. I've actually got Cryptocoryne wendtii "Red" on the way. It should be here before the end of the week. That'll be my show piece plant. Maybe after this tank I'll start up a 55g tank I've got sitting on my porch doing nothing with a nice scape. But for now I'm happy with a jungle. Thank you for the kind words.
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I'm looking into citric acid for co2 now cause of no smell.
Before you start read this article on it and DIY paintball Co2. To me the citric Co2 was a waste of money.
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Tank is coming along very nicely. Those assassin snails will definitely get rid of the pond snails. What I like to do when I get new plants is to do a thorough inspection of all the leaves for pests and infections and if I see any I put them into a quarantine tank after removing what I can. You can also do a very very mild bleach bath on plants to kill algae and parasites. All in all though when you get the tank equalized your algae problem should cease. Get co2 on the tank if possible.
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So as I said yesterday my rotala rotundifolia came in. And it looks great. I love the pinkish color towards the tips and nearer to the water surface. I also should be aquiring a 5lb co2 tank soon. So citric acid co2 is out and pressurized co2 is in. I figure on a tank this small it should last me awhile, and gives me a little grow room, say expanding to a 55g? Purchased a few more led flood lights today. Once I get the tank I'll start ordering or going to my local stores to pick up the rest of the supplies for the co2 kit. Also the 29g outdoor grow out tank is doing awesome. I planted some emersed grown ludwigia repent in it to acclimate them back to submerged growth so I can trade them to the fish store. Also I probably won't be putting fish into that tank ever only because of the temperature swings. Just a small update. I appreciate the input on co2. It just worries me to run co2 with the lights I've got now. After my led floods come in I don't think I'll have a problem, but right now being on the high low light and low medium light area I don't feel I need co2 yet. But my plants are turning red and pink, so that means I've got more than enough light if there showing there most vibrant right?
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If they have good color and keep that color then they are fine. Although they will look 10 times better with co2.pic is with high light, dirt, diy co2 and excel every other day. Sorry the picture isn't the best.
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