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So this is going to be my first actually planted tank. I've had java fern and anacharis in tanks before, but haven't had a tank that was focused largely on live plants. I set everything up today. First I put in 20 pounds of eco complete and then topped it with ten pounds of sand. I put in several bunches of anacharis, a crested java fern, an anubias, and a rosette sword. I'm definitely loving the color live plants bring, especially considering I'm used to fake that eventually fade, etc. I purchased a new light fixture that came with the auqeon full spectrum daylight bulb. That's where my first question comes in. Is that light good enough for the plants, or do I need to go back to the store and pick up the flora max bulb?
I am currently cycling the tank without fish. In a cycle on a regular tank, raising the temp can speed up the bacteria growth. I'm assuming that's a no no here, right? I'm assuming higher temps would kill the plants?
And stocking list. It's been a while since I've had a tank, so I'm not sure if my list might be a little overstocked. So far the plan is 1 dwarf gourami, 6 harlequin rasboras, 3 pygmy corys, and possibly some shrimp. If that is overstocked, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The only thing that I definitely want on my list is the gourami. The shrimp are just sort of an idea at this point, I haven't done much research on what kind a gourami might leave alone, etc.
So to recap after that lengthy post:
Is the full spectrum daylight bulb okay, or should I get the floramax?
Would higher temps for cycling kill my plants?
And pretty much just any suggestions on stocking. I'm pretty open to ideas and suggestions right now! Thanks!
Also, I'll post pics when I can!
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If that is a two bulb T5NO fixture it's way too much light.
If it's a single bulb T5 fixture it is good for the plants.
That Eco serves little if any purpose under sand like that. Could have just used the sand.
Won't hurt anything so if you used root tabs or Osmocote+ capsules/w it that would
give it a purpose. It fairly well absorbs nutrients when they are high in the water and then when they are low it releases them. So it keeps the nutrients more even over
time.

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If that is a two bulb T5NO fixture it's way too much light.
If it's a single bulb T5 fixture it is good for the plants.
That Eco serves little if any purpose under sand like that. Could have just used the sand.
Won't hurt anything so if you used root tabs or Osmocote+ capsules/w it that would
give it a purpose. It fairly well absorbs nutrients when they are high in the water and then when they are low it releases them. So it keeps the nutrients more even over
time.
The fixture is just one bulb, and it was labeled as T8. I'm not very familiar with lights, will the T8 work, or would I be better off with a T5?
And I'll use root tabs. I had read a few things about layering the substrate, so that's why I did that with the sand.
I definitely appreciate your feedback, thank you!

Bump: Oh, and I did look at aqadviser a couple days ago, I just wanted some second opinions from actual people, rather than a website.
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need some pics my dude

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It mostly will depend on the reflector that the fixture has. If it's a fairly good one it
will be enough for low light plants and some med light plants. Check the first thread
on the low tech section which gives a list of plants which will grow in low light.
A couple of those are usually listed as med light.
I have two 10g tanks and I use two T8 bulbs on one and one T5HO bulb on the other.
On the one/w two T8 bulbs one is on for 9 hrs and the other comes on in the middle of
the time period of the first bulb for 3 hrs. But these bulbs are in fixtures which have poor reflectors.

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So I tried posting pictures earlier, but my phone is not liking it, and I don't have access to the Internet on my laptop at the moment. So pictures will come as soon as I can figure out how to make my phone stop being stupid.
And the fixture doesn't seem to have a real, metal reflector, just white plastic. I'm going to save up for a T5HO fixture, but until I can afford that, I'll just keep an eye on my plants and if they start to go downhill I'll try a different bulb until I can get the better fixture.
I also put in root tabs today and picked up some api leaf zone and co2 booster. Eventually I'll probably switch to the sea chem ferts that a lot of people seem to like, but the api stuff is what I had available to buy today.
I also took a small piece of filter media from my established jack Dempsey tank to help my cycle along.
I also added the green variety of rotala today. I did read that it prefers medium light, so I'm going to be watching it and the rosette sword closely. I should be able to afford the t5 fixture in a few weeks though.
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So I finally got my phone to behave, I think.
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So I've been doing a little more research on reflectors tonight. I didn't realize that some people use white paint as a diy reflector, which is pretty much the same thing as my fixture. I also read something about aluminum foil being used as a reflector. Should I try using aluminum foil or just stick with the white that the fixture came with?
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nice man very cool! Like the black substrate.

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Thanks! I love the black substrate and background too. I think the plants look super great against it, and the fish will really pop too! I also tested and cleaned up some rocks and am in the process of boiling some sticks from our maple tree. I wanted to make it look a little more natural. I'll post more pictures when that stuff is in.
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Tank looks great! and aluminum foil would work fine. you could even split PVC in half and line it with the foil to make it look like a reflector
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I should have enough money when I get paid next week to get the new light, so I'll use aluminum foil for now, its just gonna be very temporary. And thanks! I'm super excited to get the rocks and sticks in and post more pics!
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Here's the tank after adding some rocks and sticks. I may add one more stick on the right side, but the rest of my stick options haven't sunk yet. Managed to boil the tannins out of these four very quickly though, so I'm happy about that.
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So I made a stupid mistake with the rocks. I only did the acid test and put them in water that was about 190, but didn't put them in separate containers of water to check for water chemistry changes. So on a whim, I checked my pH, not super concerned about it. I was super surprised when it came out as 8.2. That didn't seem right, so I checked the water from the faucet and it was pretty close to 7 exactly. So I removed all of the rocks and did a water change to restore the pH that I should have had. I put each rock in separate containers of the 7.0 pH water and in less than two hours, each container had a pH of about 8.something. Definitely higher than it was. So I picked up some river rocks today when we went to wade and I've definitely learned my lesson. Each of those rocks is going in a container to be monitored for at least a few days. I also ordered a new light fixture, stuff to set up a diy co2 system, and the fertilizers for the EI method of fertilizing.
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Don't mean to get in the way but how do you start a forum? I'm new a this sort of thing.
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