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10 gallon/First planted tank

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This is my first planted tank that i have done. Looking forward to the journey.

Equipment:
standard 10 gallon tank
hydor inline heater
SunSun canister filter
Current Satellite LED

Substrate:
Fluval Stratum Soil

Fish:
4 barbs (to help cycle tank)
school of neon tetras (once tank is cycled)

Inverts:
crystal red shrimp (do not have yet)

Plants:
Have one stem plant don't know name
more to come soon

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Nice First setup! seems like your off to a good start.

One thing I quickly noticed is that You placed your substrate equally everywhere in the tank. I would Recommand adding more substrate to the tank(Really slowly to avoid clouding the tank) and create a slope starting from the back going downwards to the front. Using this technique adds more depth to the aquascape when viewing the tank.

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Nice First setup! seems like your off to a good start.

One thing I quickly noticed is that You placed your substrate equally everywhere in the tank. I would Recommand adding more substrate to the tank(Really slowly to avoid clouding the tank) and create a slope starting from the back going downwards to the front. Using this technique adds more depth to the aquascape when viewing the tank.

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thanks..i agree it is really flat. i was even looking at it today thinking it needed more in the back..i appreciate your 2 cents.
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thanks..i agree it is really flat. i was even looking at it today thinking it needed more in the back..i appreciate your 2 cents.
How about making some holes for rocks and pushing some of the substrate over them?

Perhaps this thread will give you some inspiration.
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I was thinking of using the Fluval mini Co2 20 system that uses disposable cartridges, but feel that it will rack up cost quick because of buying cartridges every so often. Has anyone used this system on a 10gallon tank before?
I was think of using AP1 CO2 booster, AP1 root tabs, and maybe Flourish Excel instead of getting a CO2 kit.
Any opinions?
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I was thinking of using the Fluval mini Co2 20 system that uses disposable cartridges, but feel that it will rack up cost quick because of buying cartridges every so often. Has anyone used this system on a 10gallon tank before?
I tried it for a few weeks in my 10g. A royal PITA! You have to open and close the valve everyday. I keep it for emergencies. You can get the Co2 cartridges they use for bikes to save on the costs.

I upgraded to the Aquatek Mini Paintball Regulator (http://www.amazon.com/AQUATEK-OF-CALIFORNIA-Regulator-Mini/dp/B008TJCPSY) and couldn't be happier. 1 5lb tank has lasted me about 5 months now and still going. I have it on a timer and disperse it w/ an Elite Mini Underwater Filter, which provides terrific water movement.

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I tried it for a few weeks in my 10g. A royal PITA! You have to open and close the valve everyday. I keep it for emergencies. You can get the Co2 cartridges they use for bikes to save on the costs.

I upgraded to the Aquatek Mini Paintball Regulator (Amazon.com : AQUATEK CO2 Regulator Mini : Paintball Regulator : Pet Supplies) and couldn't be happier. 1 5lb tank has lasted me about 5 months now and still going. I have it on a timer and disperse it w/ an Elite Mini Underwater Filter, which provides terrific water movement.

Welcome aboard and good luck!
thank you for the advice and the link.
I think I will be trying Flourish Excel and AP1 CO2 booster for awhile to see how it goes. Im trying to keep this build budgeted.

Bump: *Update* (kinda)
went to lfs for a water test to see how the water parameters are after 14 days of cycling. Found out all the ammonia, nitrate, and nitrite are just starting to build up and advised to just let the tank sit for another 4 weeks before getting the water parameters checked again.
forgot how long it took to cycle a freshwater tank because my last tank was a saltwater tank which cycled fairly fast. haven't had a freshwater tank in over a year, so looks like i forgot how long it takes to cycle a fw tank.
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I think I will be trying Flourish Excel and AP1 CO2 booster for awhile to see how it goes. Im trying to keep this build budgeted.

Bump: *Update* (kinda)
went to lfs for a water test to see how the water parameters are after 14 days of cycling. Found out all the ammonia, nitrate, and nitrite are just starting to build up and advised to just let the tank sit for another 4 weeks before getting the water parameters checked again.
forgot how long it took to cycle a freshwater tank because my last tank was a saltwater tank which cycled fairly fast. haven't had a freshwater tank in over a year, so looks like i forgot how long it takes to cycle a fw tank.
Adding stem plants will speed up the cycle.

Excel alternative Metricide or Cidex. Not cidex odt. Excel has 1.5% Glut. A quart is approx $25 at fleebay At dealmed.com 1 gallon $18.20. shipping $9.99 (1.5 x container)/ cidex glut% = glut (1.5% * 100ml)/2.5%. 300ml of 2.5%(Metricide 28) + 200ml water = 500ml bottle

Here is a cheap pressurized system under $100.

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Adding stem plants will speed up the cycle.

Excel alternative Metricide or Cidex. Not cidex odt. Excel has 1.5% Glut. A quart is approx $25 at fleebay At dealmed.com 1 gallon $18.20. shipping $9.99 (1.5 x container)/ cidex glut% = glut (1.5% * 100ml)/2.5%. 300ml of 2.5%(Metricide 28) + 200ml water = 500ml bottle
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Thanks for the info!

Do you know if its bad to start dosing co2 booster and ferts before the tank is fully cycled? will it mess anything up?

The stem plant i have in the tank now is starting to have a lot of its leaves falling off so i was wondering if i can start adding the co2 booster and ferts without them screwing up the cycling process.
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Adding stem plants will speed up the cycle.

Excel alternative Metricide or Cidex. Not cidex odt. Excel has 1.5% Glut. A quart is approx $25 at fleebay At dealmed.com 1 gallon $18.20. shipping $9.99 (1.5 x container)/ cidex glut% = glut (1.5% * 100ml)/2.5%. 300ml of 2.5%(Metricide 28) + 200ml water = 500ml bottle
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Thank you for the info!
Do you know if i start dosing co2 booster and ferts if it will mess up the cycling of the tank?
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thanks for the info
do you know if dosing ferts and co2 booster will screw up the cycling of the tank?
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thanks for the info
do you know if dosing ferts and co2 booster will screw up the cycling of the tank?
It won't
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**Update**
Bought Flourish Excel and API CO2 booster to dose the tank with
Got a new plant: Hygrophila difformis

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*Update*
Its been about 12 day since i got the Hygrophila difformis and started dosing CO2 booster and Flourish. I have seen great growth with this plant and my other plant the red in the top leaves has stayed.

Will i be able to grow dwarf baby tears by dosing and have it carpet? or does it need a co2 system?
Also does anyone have any suggestion on any background plants to get? Any other suggestions regarding the scaping of the tank?

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Will i be able to grow dwarf baby tears by dosing and have it carpet? or does it need a co2 system?

Also does anyone have any suggestion on any background plants to get? Any other suggestions regarding the scaping of the tank?
Lilaeopsis brasiliensis or Marsilea Minuta would definitely grow in your tank. I have not had any luck with baby tears without injecting Co2.

Corkscrew vals would look nice. For more ideas check out rah-bops tank here.
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