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75 gallon planted cichlid- Updated with pics 56k

A few months ago I moved my africans to a 75 gallon. Im now moving to pressurized CO2 and am sure I am going to need some help and opinions along the way.

Here are the specs....


Equipment

Filter................Eheim 2215(I am NOW aware that this filter is too small for this tank)
Lighting............Catelina Solar 48' 2x54W T5HO (1 6700k, 1 actinic)
Flora Glow 48' 1x40W T8
Powerhead........1 Rio 600 (soon to be 2)
Pressurized CO2.. Green leaf aquarium choice regulator.
Mister...............Hagen mini mod (working on that)

Dosing/Water
10% water changes 1x a week
Dose NPK + Iron + Flourish + trace 1x a week

Ammonia-0
Nitrite-0
Nitrate-30
PH- 7.6

Hard scape

Substrate....Eco complete Black/3 inches, and some grey gravel
Rocks.......just some white rocks (hopefully will upgrade one day)

Flora

Amazon Sword
dwarf sagittaria
ludwigia
java fern
anubis petite
glosso
red wenditti
Limnophila aromatica
Pogostemon stellata
Rotala sp. 'Colorata'
Rotala sp. green
Rotala indica
Hemianthus micranthemoides
(there are more)

Fauna

2 yellow labs
1 peacock (peacock had to me removed)
1 red zebra
1 socolofi
1 ice blue red top
1 zebra chilumba
fry

Day one, just set up


A few weeks later. I added some more plants, equipment and the fish. things are filling in a bit


Maybe a month or so later. I took all the glosso off the rock and driftwood. Shortly after this picture things went south.


Algae happened, I trimmed a lot of it and cut back the lighting down to just the one T8 and only run the HO's 3 hrs a day.
Everything is dying... well most of it.


Will be getting CO2 soon and will go back to full light. I want to get more plants and most likely will rescape

New set up with new plants and pressurized CO2

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I would skip the power head and get another filter. a 2217 would be a good choice. and you might want to consider loosing the actinic bulb, I don't think it does anything for the plants.

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nice find on the $45, 75G tank... It's $100 around here and I'll probably pay for delivery too. I don't have anything big enough to bring it back to the house.


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I would skip the power head and get another filter. a 2217 would be a good choice. and you might want to consider loosing the actinic bulb, I don't think it does anything for the plants.
I think that a 2215 is a reasonable pick if you have 2.

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I would skip the power head and get another filter. a 2217 would be a good choice. and you might want to consider loosing the actinic bulb, I don't think it does anything for the plants.
i was thinking of that but I wonder if the LFS would take the 2215 back and let me upgrade, instead of buying a new one. I really cant buy a new one right now. $$$$. I guess I could call and ask.

I REALLY want good circulation in there for when I get the CO2 flowing
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i was thinking of that but I wonder if the LFS would take the 2215 back and let me upgrade, instead of buying a new one. I really cant buy a new one right now. $$$$. I guess I could call and ask.

I REALLY want good circulation in there for when I get the CO2 flowing
How many fish do you have? A 2215 will turn the water in that tank over twice in an hour, which I think is about the bare minimum, but the minimum wouldn't be the minimum if it wasn't good enough.

I think a second filter would be a good idea in the future so that you can clean one and not worry about wiping out the bacteria. I'd call it a backup in case one fails, but that's not going to happen with an eheim.

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How many fish do you have?
I have seven, 3 inch fish that will eventually be 6 inches each.

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nice find on the $45, 75G tank... It's $100 around here and I'll probably pay for delivery too. I don't have anything big enough to bring it back to the house.
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I had to keep looking for months because most came with an ugly stand and I really wanted a custom one. So when I found that one without a stand and at a great price I was thrilled.
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When you are ready for Co2 purchase look into a base model full controller
computer.

Like the Reef Keeper Lite or Neptune Systems Aqua Jr.

When you add up everything they come with ... power strips, temp probe,
ph probe ..... and everything they will control, they are very cost competitive.
for being under $300
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Don't you worry about cichlids tearing your plants apart? I had red zebra that was digging holes and moving my eco complete from one side of the tank to the other.
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i was thinking of that but I wonder if the LFS would take the 2215 back and let me upgrade, instead of buying a new one. I really cant buy a new one right now. $$$$. I guess I could call and ask.

I REALLY want good circulation in there for when I get the CO2 flowing
If you are already using the 2215 I doubt they will take it back. fyi, you can get a 2215 from big al's for $109 and they have a $10 off coupon that will cover shipping.

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When you are ready for Co2 purchase look into a base model full controller
computer.

Like the Reef Keeper Lite or Neptune Systems Aqua Jr.

When you add up everything they come with ... power strips, temp probe,
ph probe ..... and everything they will control, they are very cost competitive.
for being under $300
power strip $10
2 timers $15
drop checker $25
total $50

thats all you need, those controllers are just expensive toys for a planted tank.

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If you are already using the 2215 I doubt they will take it back. fyi, you can get a 2215 from big al's for $109 and they have a $10 off coupon that will cover shipping.
I cant. really. The CO2 is already more than I can spend right now. It will have to wait. Maybe I can figure a way to maximize flow with rearranging what I have now. I also am going to using a hagen mini as a mister so hopefully that will help too.

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Don't you worry about cichlids tearing your plants apart? I had red zebra that was digging holes and moving my eco complete from one side of the tank to the other.
I have one digger, my ice blue red top. He digs big holes under the rocks and has uprooted plant near the rocks so i just had to move them. I really have to stay on top of things and I replant every week, but not that much compared to what is planted. If things were easy id get bored

There is egg crate under all the plants so once they root well he cant dig them up. I however can not grow glosso under the current conditions.. so nothing roots and that has been a pain. they dont dig it up but they pull it up with their mouths and like to play with it. It is not growing AT ALL anyway so it doenst matter.

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When you are ready for Co2 purchase look into a base model full controller
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Like the Reef Keeper Lite or Neptune Systems Aqua Jr.

When you add up everything they come with ... power strips, temp probe,
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for being under $300
Thanks but I am not going to be adding any controllers to the tank, just the drop checker and the timer.
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Look at www.aquariumplants.com. They have a very lare assortment of CO2 products. I broke down and bought the complete setup, but it's worth it.
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those controllers are just expensive toys for a planted tank.
I'll agree to disagree.
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