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I see that Barclaya is finally taking off, put some green behind it


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Various FTS from todays weekly water change day...

Did a major trim on the 75g. Also re-arranged a few groups based on the above suggestion ;-)
Now I just have to wait and see how the changes fill in...


Wifes 40g - still needs a major trim but only had time for a water change.


One of the Betta tanks (really should have cleaned the glass).


The other Betta tank.


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Well, now this is interesting - can't say I have ever seen a 2 tone leaf...


And have to give a shout out to Joe @burr740 for some new plants for my addiction - a few stems of limnophila butterfly and several pogostemon helferi downoi




And of course a FTS
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Finally, what I think is a good FTS



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Nice pic!

Much better color rendition than the last one.

Messing around with Pro mode settings?


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Nice pic!

Much better color rendition than the last one.

Messing around with Pro mode settings?

I have been, but in this shot it's actually the lights that made the difference - they are at maybe 20-30% of normal 2pm brightness.

Just sitting here on the couch typing away and I looked over and though... hey that looks good! Wonder what the camera will see?


If I had time, what I should do is fashion some sort of stand for the cell phone, then take a picture every 10 or 15 minutes during the ramp up period of the lights. Maybe then I could figure out when to take my best FTS shot?


Ok, too much work LOL

Edit: in the FTS from the previous post the lights were at full power and I was trying to adjust settings in the pro mode. So, either I suck at pro mode or..... :-)

See, here's what I guess I havn't figured out yet - how can I turn up the light power for better color and yet get a black foreground and nearly black tank background? FYI, this is a pic from Facebook that I found literally minutes after I posted my pic.

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"If I had time, what I should do is fashion some sort of stand for the cell phone, then take a picture every 10 or 15 minutes during the ramp up period of the lights. Maybe then I could figure out when to take my best FTS shot?"

I don't think you will, j/k. Tank is awesome looking.
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See, here's what I guess I havn't figured out yet - how can I turn up the light power for better color and yet get a black foreground and nearly black tank background? FYI, this is a pic from Facebook that I found literally minutes after I posted my pic.

I don't know how to answer your question. With your radions, are the color channels already being run at full?

Your tank looks really good although I agree the colors in the Facebook tank are just great. From the color bands on the wall, it appears that those are LED lights. Are they DIY or commercial lights?
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@ChrisX I really don't know anything about the tank other than it looks much better than mine. With regards to my color channels, no they are not ALL at full power. Basically they look like this..


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I am in the same boat, chasing the look with leds. Love your tank.

Ive noticed the substrate color makes a big difference to the overall look of the tank. And also, may influence the way the camera captures the colors.
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I don't know how to answer your question. With your radions, are the color channels already being run at full?



Your tank looks really good although I agree the colors in the Facebook tank are just great. From the color bands on the wall, it appears that those are LED lights. Are they DIY or commercial lights?


I think his question was more towards getting the right exposure to light up all plants while keeping background and tank border well defined/dark.

You may have to play around with some photo editing software. I use adobe photoshop Lightroom cc app, free version you can edit jpegs on your phone. Mess with exposure, contrast, black point, etc.

The trick is when taking the photo make sure high light areas are not overly blown, too bright and you’ll lose detail.

Here’s an edit of the 2nd to last FTS photo you posted, an extreme edit, not very natural looking but see how you can darken certain areas like your background... hope you don’t mind...



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Ive noticed the substrate color makes a big difference to the overall look of the tank. And also, may influence the way the camera captures the colors.
Good point on the substrate. A monochromatic substrate, whether it be light or dark, tends to make the plants "pop" more, and makes a scape seem more defined.

In your tank Linn, the Helferi is a good example. With a solid dark or light substrate they would "pop" much more.

As to Pro Mode settings, white balance and brightness make the most difference.

With brightness turned down a bit, you'll have less "washed out" areas where too much light causes hot/shiny spots, if that makes sense. Color will look better and deeper, and black background will disappear. Better to take the shot with less brightness, then brighten it up later if you need to.

With the LED's, you also might turn up the color channels. Big difference for me if my highly colored bulbs aren't on. Also, a dark room with no ambient light works best. IMO better to have full lighting for clarity, but adjust camera settings to compensate.

I've been using 4K white balance, but that's just trial and error to see what makes the pics look closest to what you are actually seeing.

But hey, whatever you did on that last one seems to be working pretty well already.
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@vvDO - No, I definitely don't mind learning. Will have to do some experimenting with your suggestions.


"I think his question was more towards getting the right exposure to light up all plants while keeping background and tank border well defined/dark."

Exactly what I am trying to say / do!
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Do you guys really think it has so much to do with getting the camera settings correct as it does getting the tank / light colors correct?

Are all these wonderful tank shots a result of careful camera work?


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Do you guys really think it has so much to do with getting the camera settings correct as it does getting the tank / light colors correct?

Are all these wonderful tank shots a result of careful camera work?
The camera settings make a world of difference, regardless of the light. White balance, exposure, ISO, shutter speed, etc. can really drive what you are looking for. Not to mention all of the post photo shoot editing you can do with saturation, black levels, highlights, etc.

Now one can do this to try and achieve a picture that is as realistic a possible, or a picture that looks as 'perfect' as can be. Each has their own merits and times to use. I personally attempt to replicate what I see, but at times it is quite a bit of fun to play with different setting in pro editor or lightroom cc.



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