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The slow 112G jungle tank build ...

I wanted to start this journal to document my 90G jungle tank. I'm currently in the planning stages, although I have already started construction on the fish room in the basement that will house all of the equipment.

I've also narrowed down the equipment list and started looking for deals. Here's my list so far:




I got an good deal on the Mag 12 pump ($100 brand new) so that's already bought and an amazing deal on the ProFlex Model 3 sump ($140 new).

I've also got some rocks (some are from a previous tank from a few years ago, others I bought recently).



The rocks on the left are dragon stone and the gray rocks are seiryu stones. I'm thinking of going with the seiryu stones and possibly getting a few more.

Here's the driftwood I was going to get from Tom Barr so I could do a trunk with roots effect.



However there was a bit of a mix up and I believe here's the pieces I'll be getting instead (I'll know for sure next week when I'm back in town to actually check what arrived).




Well that's all I got so far. Feel free to provide feedback or suggestions and ask questions. I'll post updates as I make progress on getting this tank up and ruining.

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Did a bit more work in the fish room today. It's going under the stairs. There will be just enough room for a 30" cabinet, water change container (hopefully 55G drum) and a small sink.



First thing that needs to be done is to fix some of the bad work the builder did in supporting the stairs. At the same time I'll be making everything square and plumb.

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A few more details ...

I'm planning on going with Tom Barr's non CO2 method as outlined on his site (and probably several other places). I had great success with it in the past so why mess with a good thing.

Here's a picture of my 55G tank that I used to have about 6 or 7 years ago. It used Tom's method and I'm hoping to reproduce this again just on a larger scale.



On the left side the tank had a trunk with some roots. I'm hoping to go with something similar again. The right side in the new tank will be some sort of seiryu rock arrangement.

Here's a picture of the 55G when it was first setup. It's easier to see the trunk and roots in this picture.



That's all for now,
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good luck on the new build!


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I did some plumbing work today.

There are two main drain stacks close to the future fish room, so I've tied into both of them. One will be used for draining my sump for water changes and the other as the drain for the sink in the fish room. Cause of the layout of things it was easier to split this up instead of tying everything into one drain.

Here's what I started with



And here's what the finished products looked like





By taking advantage of the existing cleanouts I was able to avoid have to cut the main stacks ... something that was a big no no with my better half . And everything is still to code (more or less ).

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This looks like it's gonna be a great build!! I almost had my wife agree to the idea of blowing out a section of a partition wall and setting a 90G in it. Ended up just going with my 55g on the stand that I built. Owell maybe someday :-D
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Things have been going slower than I would have hoped for but I've been making progress. Most of the work since the last update has been to the area surrounding the fishroom. Here's the wall opposite the fishroom:



The moisture barrier against the concrete is all up and the framing is coming along nicely.

I've also run four circuits to the basement from the electrical panel:



One of these circuits will be dedicated for the fishroom and fish tank.

I've also been busy writing a IR Light Controller based on an Arduino Uno board with an Ethernet shield. I'm most likely going to get an Ecoxotic E Series light for the tank so this controller will automate things for me ... too bad these lights don't work with an Apex controller. There's still work left on the controller but I'd say it's probably 75% done. Here's a link to the code in case anyone is curious:

https://github.com/Stonyx/IRLightController

Once I get further with the controller I'll create a sperate thread with more details on it.

I think that about sums up the last little while.

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Following along here. Tank looks like it's gonna be sweet. Question on the lighting. So this is going to just be a single T5HO and a single T5NO in one fixture? Are you concerned that at 24" depth and 18" front to back, that that'll be a little on the low end of par?
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Looking good man! Fish rooms are the best, aren't they?

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Unless you are going to keep cooler water fish,the 200 watt heater may not be enough for 90 gal.Two of the 200 watt or one 400 watt would be my choice.
I like the way this is heading.
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Unless you are going to keep cooler water fish,the 200 watt heater may not be enough for 90 gal.Two of the 200 watt or one 400 watt would be my choice.
I like the way this is heading.
I used this site to do the actual heat loss calculations:

http://www.kernsanalysis.com/HeaterCalculator.cgi

For the tank and sump combined it came in at a minimum heater requirement of 221W for a temperature differential of 10C or 18F. The heater will provide 200W (I will actually need to get two 100W heaters to fit properly in the sump since these are shorter) and the return pump will provide 110W ... so hopefully I should be fine.

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Following along here. Tank looks like it's gonna be sweet. Question on the lighting. So this is going to just be a single T5HO and a single T5NO in one fixture? Are you concerned that at 24" depth and 18" front to back, that that'll be a little on the low end of par?
I originally wanted to go for T5 lights from Catalina, however, they removed the lights I was thinking of getting from their site. I emailed them and they can still be ordered but obviously they are being phased out. I'm currently leaning towards getting an Ecoxotic E Series LED light for the tank.

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so what pieces of driftwood did you get from TOM??


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If you have a back up in your sewer you will need to remove the piece you added on to the clean out. I see that you tried to add another clean out but the problem is that the Tee at the base of the main stack is not a directional Tee. This means that if you put a snake in the end of the fitting you added it could go up the stack instead of down the line.

You should have just cut into the stack 2 inches above the existing clean out Tee to tie in.

Either way, make sure you use a trap to prevent sewer gas entering the room.
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I used this site to do the actual heat loss calculations:

http://www.kernsanalysis.com/HeaterCalculator.cgi

For the tank and sump combined it came in at a minimum heater requirement of 221W for a temperature differential of 10C or 18F. The heater will provide 200W (I will actually need to get two 100W heaters to fit properly in the sump since these are shorter) and the return pump will provide 110W ... so hopefully I should be fine.

Thanks,
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My 80 gal tank (no sump) uses 400 watt Theo heater and during winter's here in the Midwest,the heater does not cycle on off if I attempt to maintain 78 degree's F it just stay's on all day as seen by the red light when it is in heating cycle.
Perhaps the heater I have, is not as efficient as the 200 watt Eheim, but it has served me well for nearly ten year's so I still employ it.
I have 200 watt Theo heater in 55 gal and it does fine even during winter .
Single digit temp's here in the Midwest are the norm during colder month's, followed by stifling heat/humidity in summer.
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