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Nature style 40b *Now with 10g crs shrimp tank*

OK so the $1 a gallon sale got me. I picked up a 40b and went about trying to set up a cheap tank.

Filter Sunsun 402b

Lighting Sunblaster 4x24 grow light fixture "now with 1 Aquaflora and 1 Midday Giesemann bulbs"

Substrate MTS with pool filter sand cap

Rock Gathered

Stand Cinder block and painted wood

Wood I couldn't find anything, so I bought a lovely piece from Tom Barr. Thanks Tom!

Plants I have most of the plants ( I think) I'm going to use in other tanks right now.

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I love this! That piece of wood is awesome! I'd flip the right side piece of wood around personally though but other then that very very cool!
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The part on the left looks great. You couldn't ask for any better/nicer looking piece of wood either.
That on the right looks contrived to me, but plants in between the rocks could make it look entirely different. And around the back of it of course.
Don't know which ones you already have so this is just thinking out loud...
Using some kind of a plastic tube/w a funnel to pour more sand between those rocks and in back of them so sand won't end up on top of them, but just before that put a couple of corkscrew vals in between them on the right half side of it and around the back right.

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Yeah, having a hard time with the right side. Here are some more options. There is space behind the rock wall on the right to add more substrate/plant. Also have larger stones I could try on the right on top if that might be better than more plants.

try to picture it with plants Amano would use in his Nature style scapes. So things like Needle leaf java fern, Anubis nana petite and bonsi, mini pella, fissidens, weeping moss.. etc. Thanks for looking.
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Lovely potential here. Can't wait to see it planted.

Not sure if you're dead set the symmetrical layout, but personally I would remove some of the right stones and leave the left side more dominant. Really bring out that gorgeous piece of wood. I'm not talking a lot, like one or two stones off the front/top. And that extra piece of wood just doesn't quite match the other piece, hmmm.

Whatever you choose, it's obviously gonna be gorgeous.

Edit: Apparently I need to back to preschool and re-learn left from right. Changed it to what I meant.


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I agree with a lot of the suggestions. Here are some more scapes based on some of your feedback. Let me know what you think works and what doesn't. Time to rest.
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I agree with a lot of the suggestions. I think I might just about have it now. The main question I have is if I should keep the large stone in the back right, or remove it for plants. Also how do you guys feel about the wood placement on the right side? I tired to use pieces that were more similar. Time to get some rest. Let me know what you think.
I love the new wood! Placement looks great. I like the rock at the back, actually. You left plenty of room for plants, especially lower ones in front of the rock.

If I had to suggest anything, I'd say make room behind the rocks on the left side for plants. Since the scape flows to the right, room for taller plants would accentuate that. Or medium plants for more symmetry.

It's so perdy, wish I had one just like it to play with.


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I like this one the most:



After you fill it out with plants, I think the completely asymmetrical look will really be nice.


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You got the rocks locally? Nice.

With the hardscape, thing to keep in mind too is what plants you want to use. I made the initial mistake of putting in too much hardscape and decided to remove some to make more room for planting. Especially with a dirted tank as well that is important.

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You got the rocks locally? Nice.

With the hardscape, thing to keep in mind too is what plants you want to use. I made the initial mistake of putting in too much hardscape and decided to remove some to make more room for planting. Especially with a dirted tank as well that is important.
I totally agree and thanks for the comments on the rocks and wood everyone! I got poison oak or ivy somehow collecting them, made it through my coat, sweatshirt, and undershirt to hit my stomach back and sides somehow. still worth it. I have an 18inch cube that I skimped on hardscape material and ended up not really enjoying, plus its hard to scape an 18inch cube in general. So it will be sold once this tank is ready. I had more rocks at first just for that reason. there was going to be a lot of stuff tied to rocks and just a few stemmed plants. Then it kind of looked cluttered, but once stuff filled in might look good?

Here is an idea of the type of plants I'll be using, I also have sag rep, mini pellia, african water fern , needle leaf java fern, rotala indica, HC, blyxa japonica.

Top picture is how I would plant if there were lots of rocks and wood on the right. The lower one is how is more how I would plant with just the rocks and wood on the left. (wood would not be done in that way obviously)




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Also I run pressurized Co2 and dry dose ferts. I think I left that out of the equipment list.
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If you have mini Pellia it would look good on one or two only of the tree limbs.
I also like the tree placement in the first two pictures much better because those pictures has the wood farther down in the tank, first and then the base of it is much better fitted to the rocks making it look like it grew there.

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So I started dsm about 2 days ago, put the glosso in yesterday afternoon, HC the afternoon before. I'm saving water from the tank I dry dose with ferts when I do water changes, and using it to spray in this tank. So far a decent amount of growth on the HC from what I started with. The Glosso was in pretty meh shape from the store, but I think even after just a day it looks better. Pics!
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