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Raaan's 40 Breeder Tank Journal

I moved recently, and it was apparent that I would not be able to keep my five tanks running (two display, one quarantine, one for breeding, one for shrimp). So I decided to combine my two display tanks (10 and 15 gallons into a single 40 breeder and repurpose the 15 gallon as a shrimp tank.

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15 gallon
The mess of floating pennywort and rotala prevented me from taking very many good pictures of this tank.


I got a Marineland Penguin 350, the 40 breeder and glass top for it from PetSmart. The stand is from Petco.com. For substrate, I started off with two bags of EcoComplete from Petco. I'd heard of the smell and was prepared for it, but it actually didn't smell like anything. I was, therefore, not prepared for the awful stench of the third bag I ended up having to order from Amazon.


Initial fill. I only had the pennywort and the hardscape from the 10 gallon in here at this point.


My boyfriend and I collaborated and decided on this for the final hardscape after bringing over everything from the 15 gallon.


And here's the tank after some more planting.


At this point, I was worried that the plants might suffer if kept with the light that came with the tank for an extended period. The light that had come with the tank housed a single 24" 17W T8. My solution: Use the hoods from the 10 gallon and 5 gallon QT tank in addition until my 2 x 39W T5 Odyssea fixture arrived from Aquatraders.


It took about a week for the light to arrive.


By which time I had managed to finish planting the rest of the plants from the 10 and 15 gallon tanks. The floating stuff is the pennywort from the 15. The big white box was a homemade breeder box that I was keeping a dwarf gourami in for fear he might cause trouble with the CPDs. Initially, I was going to give him to my roommate to put in his 10 gallon, but I eventually decided to give him a shot in the 40 and he hasn't caused any problems so far.


The only thing left to add at that point was some moss carpet to fill in the front corners. After about a week of my boyfriend nagging me about it (good thing Christmas moss keeps well in a bucket), I finally sat down and tied it all down. I had also at this point given the floating pennywort to a friend.


And that's where I'm at now! I'll post a bit later today with a flora and fauna list, as well as some detail shots, but I have to get to class right now.

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Equipment:
Top Fin 40 Gallon Breeder
Marineland Penguin 350
Aqueon 150W Heater

Substrate:
60lbs CaribSea EcoComplete

Fertilizer:
Seachem Flourish Excel, Comprehensive, Potassium

Fauna:
1 Dwarf Gourami
12 Celestial Pearl Danios
12 Espei Rasboras
6 Cherry Barbs (female)
5 Pygmy Corydoras
1 Bristlenose Pleco
5 Nerite Snails
9 Amano Shrimp

Flora:
Rotala rotundifolia
Anubias nana
Anubias afzelii (?)
Java fern
Windelov fern
Dwarf saggitaria
Crypt parva
Christmas moss
Pennywort
Frogbit

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Have you had any problems with the 350 being too strong for that tank? I just ordered a similar set up, and was then told by someone locally that the 350 is too strong and might damage the tank
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Nice tank man. What plant is floating across the top in the last pic ?


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Love it!! My favorite area of the tank is where the wood and pennywort are. It looks simulates a bridge with ivy.
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Hey everybody, sorry about forgetting about this journal. I know it's been a long time, but just in case your questions are still standing,
EvanB777, the filter is rather strong. It wasn't an issue with the stock mentioned here, but since then I've gotten some African butterfly fish, so I have some filter batting dampening the output. I'd like to replace it with an AquaClear sometime. That's also the reason for the mess of hornwort across the top of the tank. I needed something for them to hide in while the floaters filled in.
rick dale, I think you're referring to the frogbit?

The tank is still up and running, though I'm not really all that happy with the state of it at this point. Looking back through the pictures, I feel like everything has just been slowly dying these last months. I moved again two months ago, and to by honest I probably could have done it better, since I lost quite a few fish.
I suspect that one of the bulbs on the Odyssea had been out for a while and I didn't notice until ballast on the went out as well, which I suspect is why the plants aren't looking as good as the used to. So for now I'm back to using the old 10 and 5 gallon tank hoods, which likely isn't helping things. I'm debating between buying a new one and potentially having to replace it every six months or building a DIY fixture with CFLs and trying to model the lighting of my old tanks as closely as possible.
I'm also strongly considering a complete rescape at this point. I do at least like the fish I have right now.

Apologies for the image quality, the lights make it difficult to take a clear picture.
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I suspect that one of the bulbs on the Odyssea had been out for a while and I didn't notice until ballast on the went out as well. I'm debating between buying a new one and potentially having to replace it every six months or building a DIY fixture with CFLs and trying to model the lighting of my old tanks as closely
The con of CFLs they generate heat. Check out Catalina and Aquatraders for lights.

Some are also using car LED's to light their tanks. Check them out on youtube.
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The con of CFLs they generate heat. Check out Catalina and Aquatraders for lights.

Some are also using car LED's to light their tanks. Check them out on youtube.
I didn't think CFLs put off anymore heat than T8s. The hood would have an open back, and I could retrofit a computer fan to it, so I don't think it'll be too much of an issue. I briefly considered car LEDs, but most of them are either very low powered or expensive enough to defeat the purpose. I do have some Chinese LED floodlights from eBay that I could try.

Bump: Current stock:
1 Bolivian ram
2 African butterfly fish
4 Cherry barbs
2 Espei's rasboras (survivors)
12 Pygmy cories
1 Bristlenose pleco
5 Nerite snails
9 Amano shrimp
1 Bamboo shrimp

The bristlenose is still doing well. He was harrassing the ram when I first put him in, but seems to have calmed down after a timeout in a quarantine tank and some mild rearranging. It was kind of freaky seeing him stretching his odontodes like this.


The bamboo shrimp. He'll disappear for a couple days at a time, but so far he's always turned up again.


The ram. He's a funny guy. Follows me around the room, gets kind of huffy when it's feeding time and the cherry barbs try to take "his" food.


The butterfly fish. One is significantly more dominant (and much fatter) than the other, and tends to get a lion's share of the crickets whenever I feed them. Is there an easy way around this? The smaller one is always hiding in the back, so I can't really put the crickets right in front of him. I tried trapping the big one in a large net, but that's quite a hassle, especially with the floating plants, and I'm afraid he's going to get upset and jump out of the tank if I leave him in there while waiting for small guy to get his food.
The small one doesn't seem to be starving by any means, so maybe I'm just overreacting.

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The butterfly fish. One is significantly more dominant (and much fatter) than the other, and tends to get a lion's share of the crickets whenever I feed them. Is there an easy way around this? The smaller one is always hiding in the back, so I can't really put the crickets right in front of him.
I once saw a tube for feeding cory's. Perhaps you could DIY something to put food for him on the bottom while you are feeding the bigger 1.
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