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Diamond Discus' 178 gallon Planted Tank Journal

The tank is an Oceanic 178 with a footprint of 60.5X24.5X29.25. My son made the Oak stand and the Canopy is being built now. It has CO2 injection into a reactor hooked up to one of the two Rena XP3 canisters. The CO2 side has a 300W Rena Smart heater on it. The other canister has and inline 300W heater. The lighting consists of 6X85W 59 inch long retro-fit T5HO lights, and 2 coralife 2W lunar lights. The tank has only been running since November 16 2008. It is a work in progress. I am battling staghorn algae right now I believe due to my CO2 being too low. I am using PPS-Pro daily dosing as described in this article. http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...e-pps-pro.html

Stock List
30 Cardinal Tetra
5 Dwarf Neon Rainbowfish
4 Pair of German Blue Rams
1 Black Ghost knife
200+ Red Cherry Shrimp
3 Amano Shrimp
6 Corydoras Sterbai

Plant list
Anubias:
Anubias barteri v. 'nana'
Anubias barteri v. 'coffeefolia'
Anubias barteri v. nana 'petite'
Cryptocoryne:
Wendtii v.red
Wendtii v.green
Crypt walkeri (from Matt)
Aponogeton:
Aponogeton Crispus
Aponogeton Longiplumulosis
Ulvaceous
Aponogeton boivninanus
Sagittaria:
narrow-leaf tall Subulata
narrow leaf dwarf Subulata
Vallisneria:
Corkscrew Vals-Vallisneria americana v. 'Biwaensis'
Sword Plants
Amazon Sword/Echinodorus Amasonicus
Sunset Hygrophila/Hygrophila polysperma 'Rosanervig'
Giant Hygrophila/Hygrophila corymbosa v. 'Siamensis'
Low-Grow Hygrophila/Hygrophila corymbosa 'compact' (from Matt)
Baby Tears/Micranthemum umbrosum
Narrow Leaf Java Fern/Microsorum pteropus v. 'narrow leaf' (from Matt)
African Fern/Bolbitis heudelotti (from Matt)
Red Temple/Alternathera reinekii (from Matt)
Rotala colorata (from Matt)
Rotala rotundifolia (from Matt)
Blyxa japonica (from Matt)
Phoenix Moss/Fissidens fontanus - the mossy looking plant (from Matt)
Red Lily dwarf (from Matt)
Pogostemon Stellata
Najas roraima (from Matt)
Tonina belem (from Matt)
Salvinia Oblongfolia (from Matt)
I would like to order some riccia fluitans for a carpet look.
The driftwood is from Ted Judy.








I have had 2 RenaXP3's on it up until a few days ago when I had to steal it temporarily for another tank. Thus the 2 power heads to keep things moving and the heater hanging in the middle of nowhere to keep the tank heated evenly. Very soon it will be returned to the 178. Perhaps I should not have started the thread until the canopy was installed and the filter returned, I was so excited about the plants I overlooked the powerheads and heater haning in the front.

I was able to get a lot of these plants from Helgymatt as a trade for some German Blue Rams. It was great to meet him Wednesday night and have him in my home. He is a great guy, very knowledgable, and extremely helpful. I want to thank him again for giving me plants I would have never been able to have. I only hope I can keep them looking as nice as they do today.
Thanks for looking.
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I bet you'll plants will get better and bigger day by day. Very nice set up.
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Looks good Sue, Much bigger than my ADA Mini M

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wow. thats a good looking tank, you have a lot of room to play with.

thats a lot of plants, how many rams did you have in the first place??

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I bet you'll plants will get better and bigger day by day. Very nice set up.
Thanks, I sure hope so. The staghorn algae seems to have stopped getting worse, it may even be better. If I get my CO2 figured out it should get rid of it, I hope!!



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Looks good Sue, Much bigger than my ADA Mini M
Thanks Craig. How are you anyway?? I bet your mini is a lot easier to take car of. I have to use my snorkle gear to reach the bottom of this beast!! LOL (I have a 24 inch tweasers that helps too, but sometimes only the hand will do) Are you coming to the MCA Auction at the end of January? I think Helgymatt is coming, he and another guy from Ames (cichlidchad) are carpooling. I'll probably be there too.


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wow. thats a good looking tank, you have a lot of room to play with.

thats a lot of plants, how many rams did you have in the first place??
Thanks for the comps, yes there is a lot of room, I want to keep the middle open for Discus in a few months. Right now nothing else will be added for stock until I have the plant care down pat...ok, it may be longer than months at the rate I'm going!! LOL Helgymatt is to thank for the extended plant list.

I had 110 rams, purchased as fry that I am growing out for my local club. All are pre-sold. It's time to start moving them out, they are sexable now. I have delivered or placed about 54 of them so far...but an still caring for the rest. I chose my 4 pairs last week. I just adore German Blue Rams behavoir. The way two males stare each other down is so cute. And they are beautiful to boot.
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Sue I might. I was kind of disappointed with the last one I attended as tehre didn't seem to be alot of stuff or rarer stuff.

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True...I wish Jon would order in some plants. I asked on MCA, but what do you think of Neritina sp. (Aebra or red spot) for algae instead of Amano. I have heard somtimes Amano can eat baby RCS.
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Sue Nertites are great algae eaters. I posted a reply over at MCA for ya. And a reply to my Mini M aswell. We need an IA plant gathering is there enough of us for one . You should check out hte EIAA auctions. We had a ton of stuff took 7.5 hours to finish our fall auction. We opend the door to start bringing stuff in at 10 I was there at 8 to start setting tables up and left at 7:30 that nite. Even a bunch of plants at the auction couldn't believe what they were fetching.

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Yes I should come up to that sometime. We are getting quite a few planted tank people in Iowa, which is great. Also I'd like to stop at Dan's (Tyris) place on my way north to visit some of my Discus he has. I just saw your post on mca. Great information. I'd like to post it here too because it is really good information for newbies like myself. Especially the information about mixing shrimp. Hope that is OK, If not I'll delete it.

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Nerites are excellent algae eaters. can't comment on the red spotted as I don't have any exp. with them.
Here is an easy shrimp break down:

Neocardina Sp include:
RCS Red Cherry Shrimp
Yellow Shrimp
Blue Pearl Shrimp
Snowball Shrimp
Wild Type

Cardina Sp include:
Tiger shrimp- Includes all varieties OEBT, Dark Blue, Blonde, Red, Black with gold eyes my favorite but at $800 ea out of my budget.
CRS/ CBS- Crystal Red Shrimp/ Crystal Black Shrimp comes in various grades C,B,A,S,S+,SS,SSS,SSSS the higher the grade the more expensive.
Bee Shrimp
Super Tiger

Mixed group can ususally be mixed with the above sp.:
Amano/ Yamamato- same thing
Malayan
Sulawesi
Rainbow
Bamboo

Don't mix Cardina with Cardina they will cross and leave you with brown wild type coloring. same for the Neocardina if crossed you end up with brown wild type coloring. It safe to mix a Neo and a Cardina in the same tank with Amanos though. Amanos won't breed in fresh water they need brackish water to breed as their young have a larval stage.
You could add any Cardina species in with your RCS just not a Neocardina sp.
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No problem Sue, actually the shrimp forum here has tons of good advice. Dan's place it cool haven't been there in awhile but need to get over there soon. I will be setting up an auto water change system on his 220.

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No problem Sue, actually the shrimp forum here has tons of good advice. Dan's place it cool haven't been there in awhile but need to get over there soon. I will be setting up an auto water change system on his 220.

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Wow, that will really be nice for Dan. You always were quite the plumber.
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This week's update: Plants have grown a bunch. No new algae, just the old. I cut off the sword and crypt leaves that had staghorn on them. The large piece of wood is still covered in it, I can't even get it off with a brush. LOL My Co2 has been at the correct color of green all week, PH 6.0 using more bpm than I can count.





the forground plants are engulfed in staghorn algae. The baby tears in front of the rock on the left were melting so I moved them so they could get more light and now they are sprouting some new growth. (immediately to the right of the Blyxa japonica)

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Thanks Craig, I like to compare photographs from the last time and see exactly which plants are bigger and more full. I really need to pitch the dwarf saggitarria...it looks bad. Will the staghorn eventually die and go away, I can't seem to remove it manualy...or will the new growth just overtake it?
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I was given this great link and I think I have Cladophora, not staghorn.

http://www.gwapa.org/articles/algae/
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