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80 Gallon (300 litre) Tropical Setup.

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So far I have owned two tanks. The first was a 3 gallon betta cube, and the second a planted 15 gallon I bought when I decided the 3 gallon wasn't quite enough space for me or the betta. I have replanted the 15 gal. twice, and raised various plants, with almost entire sucess so far (currently growing Anubias, like watching paint dry). As christmas approached, I got adventurous.

I have purchased a 300 litre (80 gallon) 4 foot setup. Stunning setup, now running water through it to make sure it all works .

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Right. Tommorow I plan on adding a good layer of white sand to the tank, and then (once it settles a bit) adding rockwork, plants and fish. I'm currently thinking Discus and Algae Eaters (have had bad experiences with hair algae ). The AE will be added first, and the Discus later, once the tank matures. That being said my younger brothers (Twelve and Nine) seem intent to interfer. If they say goldfish, I'm gonna have to shoot myself.

I like to be ahead of the game, so have photoshopped-up some quick sketches of what I am thinking. I know its hard to see, but are there any initial thoughts?



(Brown represents rocks, green represents plants)

I'de really like this tank done well, so any input would be appreciated (ideally some constructive criticism would be appreciated)

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Perhaps we should wait til you do a dry lay of all the rocks in the tank. The square artistic renderings of the rocks does nothing but say, "don't use square rocks".


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Careful with the algae eaters you choose. I am no expert, but I have heard the ottos will "attack" discus. Basically, they attach to the discus to eat their slime coat eventually killing the discus.

Besides that, sounds cool. I look for ward to some pics once the tank comes along.


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Perhaps we should wait til you do a dry lay of all the rocks in the tank. The square artistic renderings of the rocks does nothing but say, "don't use square rocks".


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Yeah, the renderings are all about proportions. I want to get a rock of these heights, and space them this far apart. Would you prefer round rocks?



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Careful with the algae eaters you choose. I am no expert, but I have heard the ottos will "attack" discus. Basically, they attach to the discus to eat their slime coat eventually killing the discus.

Besides that, sounds cool. I look for ward to some pics once the tank comes along.
Right. I'll stick to SAE & Cories then. Thanks for the headsup.
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you can always get amano shrimp for algae control, but idk how they function at discus temps
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you can always get amano shrimp for algae control, but idk how they function at discus temps
Where would I be able to get my hands on some?
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By the way, Cories don't eat algae, so just wanted to point that out. Although they are great fish to keep!
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i've never heard of an Ottocinclus attacking anything, let alone a discus.... I'd be curious to read this if you have the link...
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I've heard of ottos trying to "suck " themselves onto discus and accidentally getting caught in their gills..
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I've heard occasional rare reports of Otos doing this. I asked some breeders about it, and they said it's most likely that the Otos were starving- the tank they were in was too algae-free. They suggested growing some algae logs for the Otos to see if they'd then leave the discus (or other large fish) alone. They said that due to the discus' large, flat sides and the small size of the Otos it probably started off as a case of "mistaken identity" and then the Otos found that the discus slime is nutritious (since that's what discus feed their own fry) and stuck with it.





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do reaserch discus take time and lots of water changes oh did i mention time
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If they say goldfish, I'm gonna have to shoot myself.
I feel your pain, man. So. Much. Pain. )8

And I think you're on the right tracks with the round rocks, Now if you could get them just a little bit pointier...

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