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My 5 gall mish-mash dirt tank

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mish-mash

everything green on my desk is locally sourced and I use in my kokedama/wabi's some of this I will experiment with at waterline level in the tank when it arrives

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the tank I am going to use is apx 5 gall and I am going to use this shrimp/plant soil and cap it with small grain black sand/gravel. For lighting I am going low tech with 15 watt CFL's x2 - I will also dose with excel and other ready mixed ferts - any Are there reasons why this will not work ?? please let me know..
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done a few more W-K's while I am waiting


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Generally speaking, most on here who do CFL in smaller tanks find that one x 13W CFL works on a 10g tank or smaller. This level grows many plants and avoids much of any algae. You may be able to raise that because of not having it full of water ?
Nice variety of plants.

Bulb position is important: Vertical position, typically in a "Brooder" lamp gives that much light.
A horizontal position of the bulb will reduce the light level by almost 50%.
They have not been out for this whole year...but so far reviews are good.
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THANKYOU Raymond - that is exactly the kind of practical advise I was hoping to get here.
The balance of light seems one of the most important . I have dirted my tank and now await the cap and inhabitants

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everything green on my desk is locally sourced and I use in my kokedama/wabi's some of this I will experiment with at waterline level in the tank when it arrives

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Beautiful plants! What's this confierous one in the middle in the blue and white bowl?
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Thankyou NotCousteau - that coniferous one in the blue saucer is just a cutting I am trying to root in the W-K ball . I guess that makes it more of a kokedama and like most of my dabbling is experimental so we shall see what happens. I am not sure of its name so please forgive my ignorance .

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finally got some plants into my jungle tank and got 3 pea puffers that you can just see below the thermometer - pretty chuffed that all the plants seem to be doing well. I have stopped using the easycarbo and profito ferts for now as I am scared of stressing the puffers which I got 3 days ago . Also have 5 cherry reds in there somewhere !! Apologies for the limited photo skills - they need to grow with my aquarium skills. Does anyone have any suggestions re feeding the puffers ? I have been putting frozen bloodworms in but I dont see the puffers actually eat them so I will try brine shrimp if the little guys dont starve before they arrive. Anyhow - so far so good . Suggestions please
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Caution! Your puffers will probably hunt down and eat your shrimp. Puffers prefer live food, are semi aggressive, and IME are best kept alone. I have had success with puffers in a small tank, but it had an infestation of ramshorn snails which provided the staple food source for them.

Oh, and eh are extremely intelligent for a fish, especially one so small. It's hard too fool these guys into eating dead things, especially if they are wild caught.


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Caution! Your puffers will probably hunt down and eat your shrimp. Puffers prefer live food, are semi aggressive, and IME are best kept alone. I have had success with puffers in a small tank, but it had an infestation of ramshorn snails which provided the staple food source for them.

Oh, and eh are extremely intelligent for a fish, especially one so small. It's hard too fool these guys into eating dead things, especially if they are wild caught.
Yea 42 - one of the reasons I got the puffers is because I used to keep their marine cousins and liked their inquisitive nature . These freshwater puffers, miniscule, but the same personality. I am going to hatch brine shrimp and hope that works for food . They have already dispatched several snails and a few cherries. Will live brine shrimp work ?? thanks haytch

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Live baby brine shrimp may work, but might be too small. I'd be interested to hear your results.
I used to feed mine small earthworms from the garden and white worms from my compost once in a while (not too often though, as all that biomass will spike your ammonia). They would go crazy for them. I think they liked the wriggling.


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Live baby brine shrimp may work, but might be too small. I'd be interested to hear your results.
I used to feed mine small earthworms from the garden and white worms from my compost once in a while (not too often though, as all that biomass will spike your ammonia). They would go crazy for them. I think they liked the wriggling.
I definitely get the wriggling part - my sister just bought home a present of two "otto's" or catfish . I am not familiar with them but they wriggle and the puffers seem fascinated !! I think they will soon launch an attack all part of the experiment

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update - all plants growing ! Pea puffers thrive

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hey haytch, welcome aboard. I kept DP's for a few years. Once they mature (the male will get a stripe on his belly), you'll have to separate the males or it'll be WWIII:-) I'd advise setting up a separate nano just to raise snails. I fed them mostly blackworms (Lumbriculus variegatus) which you can culture in the refrigerator in some tupperware. Good luck!
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