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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-01-2008, 04:12 AM Thread Starter
 
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Here it is, my first attempt at keeping a freshwater planted tank after keeping reef tanks successfully for a couple of years. The tanks itself is a custom made cube that holds just under 14 gallons. I am lighting it with four 13watt spiral compact flourescents: 2 are 6700K and 2 are 3700K. I have a large broadleaf sword as the center peice, a handful of lemon bacopa, a handful of red lugwigia, and some anubius.

The filter is a Marineland canister filter rated for a tank up to 30 gallons. Also a 25watt stealth heater. I am also using RO/DI water, good idea? Also dosing a rounded fertilizer, no CO2 . . . yet. Don't know if I'll need it.

I don't have any fish yet, but my plans are:
7-9 Rasbora Hets (too many?)
2-4 Oto Cats
1 Tiger Loach (temporary to get rid of some snails while I'm still adding plants)

I would also like to get some HC plant later.

Suggestions are welcome and invited. I'll post some pics later.
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Sounds nice!

I think you'll need CO2 with that lighting; hard to say since so much light is lost to restrike with spiral bulbs, but CO2 can never hurt. DIY should do pretty well with a tank that size.

The sword will outgrow that tank fairly quickly, though.

RO will work, but you'll probably want to reconsitute it some with either tap water or some commercial product. The plants will need some of the trace.

What "rounded fertilizer" will you be using?





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Thanks for the advice but I have a couple questions for you:
1. How can I find info on a DIY Co2
2. How would I reconstitute the RO/DI water
3. Could you explain the spiral flourescent comment

I will be using "plant gro" fert that is iron enriched.
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1. You'll find tons of threads on DIY CO2 if you just run a "search". I'm pretty sure that there's a sticky at the top of one of the forums, too... maybe in the DIY forum?

2. You could either reconsititute RO/DI by mixing back in a little tap water, or use some commercial products; Seachem makes a pretty good one.

3. Picture the light coming out all sides of the tube of a spiral bulb. The way the bulb is shaped, much of the light that is emitted is going to go sideways rather than down into the tank. When emitted light is directed back at the bulb itself instead of going towards the intended target it is called "restrike."

IDK what fixture you're using, but there are also some small U-shaped compact flourescent bulbs on the market now that possibly might fit instead of the spirals. These would put more light into the tank than spirals. www.lightbulbsdirect.com I believe has them.





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Thanks for the advice, I think I'll start mixing some tap into the in with water changes. Or maybe use it for top off. If i chose to use a commercial product, what would the product be called? is it a "tap water reconstituter liquid"?

As for the bulbs, I think I'm going to keep them. I am using to fixtures that come with those 10 gallon kits. Also, is there a better fertilizer to use? I also got some fert plugs that you bury in the gravel that I am going to put under my bacopa and ludwigia.

Thanks for answering my questions so far btw!
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I personally like Seachem products; there's plenty of other good brands and products on the market, but IME Seachem consistently puts out reliable products. Seachem's Equilibrium is one option for reconsituting RO water, designed specifically for planted tanks: http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod...uilibrium.html

You'll need a balance of macro and micro nutrients for your tank. There's tons of different fertilzation methods/strategies- www.GreenLeafAquariums.com and www.RexGrigg.com are 2 places to read up on some fert dosing guides.





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Sounds like your on the right track. Any pictures or sketches of the scape? Also for the HC, I'm sure a nutrient rich substrate wouldn't hurt.

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Thanks for the advice everyone. Originally, I wanted one large sword to be the focus of the aquarium and to eventually have it grow out of the surface of the water. Now, I don't think I'm going to keep it, I'm really liking my red ludwigia.

Here are a few pics of when i set it up: No fish yet






Here it is bout a week l8tr and I rearranged some of the plants:




I am definately getting rid of the sword, really do not like how it looks in the pics. would it grow in a pot or bowl with soil really wet?
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Idk, But that is one nice looking sword. Would look wonderful in a bigger tank. ...Like mine =] What kind is it and where did you buy it from?

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I think its a broadleaf brazilian sword, I got it at a Petland in Charlotte, NC
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Interesting setup. Not sure if I like that huge sword and what its future holds in that small tank, but definetly unique.


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I like the set up. The sword is very dominant, but I think it's adds originality to the tank. Can't wait to see what else you have in store for this tank.


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Well, bad news. The sword had to be removed bcuz it started to die and stink I was getting tired of it blocking the light anyway.
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