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pulled it out of the attic and im gonna set it up tomorrow.

lighting: 2 clip on lamps running a 26 w 65k bulb in each
filtration: aquaclear 20 or 30
substrate: eco complete
decor: branchy driftwood
flora: ferns, mosses maybe some stems
fauna: probably a couple amano shrimp, idk about fish yet

my layout plan so far:


FYI: the wood will not just lay on the substrate, there will be a few peices sitting up a little also, i just cant draw that in paint

id like to have a for-ground substrate of pool filter sand, i think the color is fairly natural and i think the sand makes the tank look more natural. im concerned that it will just keep mixing with the eco complete over time and look messy though. anyway to permanently divide it without rocks?

i cant decide what plants to put where. i need something tall and thin for the background (dark green), maybe corkscrew val? someone told me narrow leaf java would be good as a mid-ground (lime green) but im concerned it might get a little too tall. i cant find any info on how tall it will get, any help? on the wood (teal) will either be christmas moss or java moss, depending if i can get my hands on some xmas moss.

should i just screw my plan and go for a huge bush of java fern in the corner and have branches coming out with moss on them?

any comments/suggestions are welcome

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are these javas planted on the wood or did they grow this high off the substrate? its hard for me to tell, but it looks like theyre on the wood.

does anybody know what the realy tall plant in the back right corner is?
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Looks like needle leaf java fern. It's probably planted on the substrate

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I think that the tall plant in the right corner could be one of these:
Cryptocoryne crispatula var. balansae
Cryptocoryne retrospiralis
Cryptocoryne spiralis
Link: http://www.plantgeek.net/plantguide_...4&filter_by=15

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ya ive heard that C. belansae can get real tall. imo it looks a lot like the C. spiralis, but the texture of the leaves look like the needle leaf java.

how tall do needle leaf java ferns get?
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i know adding some gravel from a well established tank will jumpstart cycling. what about some activated carbon as well? found a replacement pack in my attic that has never been opened, thought id spread it out underneath the substrate

the substrate is now ADA aquasoil Amazonia
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i think the background is going to be needle leaf java, midground will be narrow leaf java. some java moss and fissidens on some of the wood. a few peices of slate with fissidens on them for a small carpet too.

put in a top and bottom shelf in the stand that came with the tank today:



my driftwood that barely fits in right now, i like how branchy it is:

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Thats a very tall tank Driftwood looks nice

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ya it is quite tall. ill have a couple inches of substrate in the bottom and i hope to make a nice bush at the base of the wood with narrow leaf java. needle leaf java will probably go in the back right corner, maybe C. belansae instead though. thinkin about addin a tiger lotus in there somewhere to add some color also
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Nice driftwood!


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ya ive heard that C. belansae can get real tall. imo it looks a lot like the C. spiralis, but the texture of the leaves look like the needle leaf java.

how tall do needle leaf java ferns get?
I just reread this question.

The plant in the very rear is not a fern. It is a crypt. I guess that you know this. now

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One thing about the wood though, is that it will be hard to clean the glass with it that close Im sure you'll find a way

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thanks leftc

ya i figured it was a crypt. do you think its C. belansae or spiralis? i really like the look of it either way. interested in gettin some unless needle leaf is tall enough for a background plant... still cant figure out if it will be lol
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It's hard for me to tell what it is. Retrospiralis or Spiralis????

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idk lol

when attaching all my narrow leaf java to the wood, should i tie it underneath the peice of wood where i can so the leaves will grow up and around the wood?
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idk lol

when attaching all my narrow leaf java to the wood, should i tie it underneath the peice of wood where i can so the leaves will grow up and around the wood?
I would say that depends on how much of the wood you want showing. Either way would work. Nice driftwood btw
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