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Please Work This Time:a 29 gallon journal: PICS ADDED 8-25

when I first startedt his tank, it was going okay. I picked up a ton of plants, some sweet fish, etc. Then trouble sprouted. I got green water, but that was easily taken care of with a UV sterlizer. Then, I overdosed on my Co2, and my fish started gasping at the surface, etc. But I still didn't lose any fish or plants. Then the real stuff started happening. While I was out of town, my Co2 system tipped over. I had 2-2 liter bottles running on it, and when I got back, they were both half empty. but yet, none of my fish died. Almost all of my plants did however.

So after many many many many many water changes, I finally have the tank clean. But then stuff started happening with my fish. I got ich, then finrot.

I started with:
10 kerri blue tetras
6 rummy nose tetras
3 corydoras habrosus
2 apistogramma agassizii
1 otto
3 guppies

I now have:
2 apistogramma agassizii
3 corydoras habrosus
1 otto

So, now, I"m finally getting a bunch of plants back, buying more, and getting ready to re-scape.

Today, tomorrow, and friday, I should be getting a bunch of plants in the mail. hopefully none will be ruined.

I'm going with a mountain type look on the right side of the tank with a bunch of plants. The foreground is going to be mostly E. tennulas 'red' and glosso in the very front. I'm gonna have a pretty large piece of driftwood on the left side covered in peacock moss, flame moss, and tiawan moss.

here's my plant list (or at least what I am hoping to get in the mail, if it all lives)

-stargrass
-Rotala najensin
-Rotala verticularis(alrady have it)
-Rotala sp. 'colorata' (already have it)
-Blyxa japonica
-Lagrosiphon madagascarensis (already have it)
-Hygrophilia polysperma 'sunset' (already have it)
-Hygrophilia polysperma 'green' (alrady have it)
-Java ferns (already have it)
-Java moss (already have it)
-Tiawan moss (already have it)
-Peacock moss (already have it)
-Flame moss (already have it, but not lookin too hot)
-E. tennulas 'red'
-Bocopa carolina (already have it)

I can't remember is I have anything else coming or not...lol

So, that's it for now. right now, the tank is plantless as I treat ich and whatnot, hopefully i'll replant friday or sunday, as I should have all the plants by then.

So, hopefully, this will be my last scape in the tank...or rather, the last time I have to change it due to a problem in the tank.

But now, I need some kind of schooling fish to replace my tetras. I'm looking into rainbows. Specifically gertrude's and threadfins. Any ideas?

Pics up when I get them.

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are you going to go pressurized this time around?
i would really reccomend it.
btw, ph controllers are awesome, especially if you put a timer between it and the system just for extra safety (cheap homedepot ones work, or X10 and such if you want).

try some GLO-FISH. maybe along with a few regular danios. IME, they are very cool, active fish. and feeding is extremely easy.

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I like glofish, but they are kinda spensive. And not natural enough. I'm not a fan of the supe bright colors...lol

What does a Ph controler do? Do I put it in the tank, or attatch it to the Co2?

I'm gonna go CIY again. I'm building a small container to support the bottles so they don't fall again.

I'm 17 and trying to budget my money (not going so well...haha). How much does a Co2 system cost? Pressureized that is?

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a ph controller is attached to the solenoid of your c02 regulator.

Since c02 brings down ph, you set your controller to where you want it to be and if the c02 brings it down too much, it turns the c02 off. When the c02 is higher than you want, then it turns it back on.
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the ph probe (that reads the ph through electrical output) is in the tank, there is a wire going to the ph solenoid.

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I like glofish, but they are kinda spensive. And not natural enough. I'm not a fan of the supe bright colors...lol

What does a Ph controler do? Do I put it in the tank, or attatch it to the Co2?

I'm gonna go CIY again. I'm building a small container to support the bottles so they don't fall again.

I'm 17 and trying to budget my money (not going so well...haha). How much does a Co2 system cost? Pressureized that is?
I got my co2 system (5 lb aluminum tank, regulator, solenoid, bubble counter, three way splitter, four needle valves, digital timer, and aquarium test strips) for $100..... I guess I got lucky

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Okay...

I got the tank scaped today. It's nothing special right now, infact, I hate it. I tried it a different way that planned origanally, and hated it even more, so now, I'm doing the original way, again.

Everything is new still, really no roots on anything except the java ferns. I have alot of open space, so taht means I can get more plants :p

I'm going out of town for a week on the 8th, so unless they can get shipped out monday, or they come from the lfs, I'm not getting any more plants...haha

I have a few more plants coming on Tuesday/Wednesday. Blyxa, stargrass, R. najenshan, and some other stuff (not sure, I forget). This will prolly just get thrown in the tank and scapes into the tank when I get back.

I'm going out tomorrow to get more cories (only have 2, the 3rd died) and possible some tetras/pencilfish/coolish rainbows that are too large to be eaten by my 'pistos. Whatever the lfs has.

I would have picks, but the tank is pretty cloudy, from what, i'm not sure, it's not green, so hopefully it isn't green water. If it's still cloudy by tuesday, I"ll throw my UV sterlizer in it. I managed to pick up a small intank one that pumps out 130 gph. I'll try to post a link to it if I can find one.

I'll get picks up as soon as the tank clears up. Right now, you can't even see the back of the tank. Lighting or something is glaring up the pick. In real life you can see it tho :p

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i dont think you should add any new plants a week prior to a vacation (if youre doing a blackout, if not, youre fine ) cause they'll rot like mine did
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I'm not doing a black out. My parents will be home. (speaking of which, I need to put the lights on a timer)

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Well...

I went to the lfs today to get some fish and plants.

Bot much in terms of plants, I grabbed a red nesaea (nesaea sp. red) but forgot to get a bunch of R. wallachii...lol

As far as fish go, I grabbed 8 green fire tetras, and 4 more C. habrosus.

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Couple of questions...

Will snails be hurt by the rust? I was thinking about getting a couple more nerites, but if they will die from the rust, I"m not gonna waste my money.

Will MTS, malasian trumpet snails, help keep the tank clean by eatig leftover food and waht not? Will they eat the plants?

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malaysian trumpet snails won't eat your plants. They'll actually burrow in your substrate and aerate it. (is aerate the right word if it's underwater???) I don't know about being affected by rust... Rust is just oxygenated Iron, FeO2, I believe. And snails and other inverts are affected by Copper (Cu?) which is, of course, a different substance.

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But the point is I don't actually know. I just know people put staples on things and don't mention that they have any major die-offs. (I'm assuming you're talking about staples in your driftwood.)
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So...Good news...I went on vacation for a week, and came back, and my green water is GONE!

I went and bought some flourish iron that I've been using, and I'm waiting for the flourish trace elements to come in from the distributer.

I had no plants die while I was gone, though most did come up-rooted, which was expected, as they are all new, and have no roots yet.

There was a little growth. Luckily, my Nesaea sp. red is growing. I was really worried about it, as plantfinder has it listed under extremely difficult. Granted the new growth is on the greenish side, it's still growing.

My colorata is doing nicely. Growing like mad, and losing a bit of it's color, but once I add my Co2 system (DIY) and start adding iron on a regular basis, that should all turn dark pink again.

Today I made a moss carpet out of tiawan moss. I still need to get more greenish stems, and a few more red ones. I'm getting some Rotala sp. green, Hygro sp. bold (I think, I forget), and some Bocopa moneri later this week.

All the fishes are doing great. The green flames look amaing, and the apistos are doing well too, except the male, which now has cloudy eyes, but it's going away.

Well...I'm off to go try to snap some pics cause you can see the tank now...haha

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Finally got pics...haha Please excuse the algae....

The tank:


Right side:


Left side:


HM:


Lagarosiphon madagascarensis:


More pics coming later....

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Nesaea sp. Red:


Limnophila aromatica:


O. niger (can anyone ID this sucker? I think it's an O. niger):


C. habrosus:



Green fire tetras (I just turned the light on, so they are still washed out from being in the dark):




O. affins:


From a different tank:

CHERRY SHRIMPLETS: (yes, that's a piece of duckweed in the right hand side of the screen)


What is this plant?:

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