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Hello all, have been doing a lot of research the past few months. So far all my orders have come in, I have off from school this week and have been setting up my tank.

Here's what I have so far:

Nova Extreme 2X24 Watt(48 total)
Versa tube top
Deluxe heater 100W
2 bags flourite red
Eheim classic 2213


Plant list:
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Now for the layout, I think I may have added too much substrate, but its pretty deep overall. I wanted to make a barrier or gravel difference in the center, but I'm not sure what to put that would go good color wise yet.

I found some rocks at the side of my house, washed them off well and placed some in my tank. My dad had a piece of driftwood from a former tank of his, I didn't think it fit too well, so I'm sticking with the rocks.

I have yet to add the water as I'm still setting up the filter, tell me what you guys think.

Substrate, hope I didn't use too much.


Right view, I put the heater next to the intake thinking it would take the heated water, run it through the filter, and disperse it thought the entire tank via spray bar.


Left view(2nd least viewed side) trying to do something with the substrate mountain =p


1st


2nd


3rd


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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-24-2008, 02:47 AM
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i agree, you do have too much substrate overall. taking out a cup, or two, may help you achieve your desired hardscape.
Just keep the substrate level along the front edge, uniformly an inch+/- above the black strip, and go from there. that level throughout should support most all plants, and you can add your high spots to that inch+ base.
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I like the rock setup in #3! work with that idea could be cool.
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I like the first one, As soon as i saw the wood i was like oo sht. You could build something nice when that wood.

One month in.
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I agree that wood looked good.
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Alright guys, after much speculation I went with #3. The 4th one my little brother set up so I'm gonna leave it in for a while, eventually take it out because it doesn't seem to fit.

I tried to make the driftwood fit in, but It just didn't look right to me or family. I'll admit that in the picture it looks much better than in person. I got my filter set up last night and filled up the tank with water. Filter took a little while but I found a bunch of good threads, where someone linked this picture on how to set up the Eheim classic 2213

here: http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2213dn1.jpg

Thank you to whoever that was, it helped immensely.

Filter Setup:


Back line intake


top view pre-fill


bowl trick works well..


So easy to do water changes with those 5 gallon Poland spring bottles


3/4 filled, not a drop on the floor



Tank as of last night about 10:30, just put water in



aaand next morning..haha the pyrex bowl is still in there



Now im kinda clueless on what kind of plants I want in there, I understand the tall plants in back, mid ground plants and foreground plants would anyone mind helping me make a list?
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went to the LFS, got a few plants 3 varieties total. Foreground is micro sword, not sure about the background plants

I just finished planting them, and it was kinda a crapshoot..after I placed about 2 plants the tank became so cloudy I couldn't see anything, now its a big mess, does this happen all the time after you disturb the substrate? I wonder, flourite red may have been a bad choice
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you will not be able to keep too many plants in there, its only 2wpg, i have 3 on mine and struggle to get the red growth i desire.

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ah really? ah well, its a 48 watt light total, 20 gallon tank I guess 2.4 wpg isn't bad. Maybe the tank being lower and closer to the light would help it in its favor.
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How many pounds of substrate did you use?

How many pounds of rock?

All of that takes away from the "20 gallons". If you figure there's 2 bags of 20 lbs + maybe 15 lbs of rock... That's 55lbs which is 880 ounces which is equal to 6.9 gallons of lost water. You can say 7 because you probably won't fill it to the brim.

So that "20 gallons" leaves you with 13 gallons of actual water after you've added all your decor.

The 2.4 WPG you'd get from a bare bottem tank of 20 gallons has been moved up to a 3.7 WPG if you only have 13 gallons of water after you add the decor.

Just my opinion though
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I think that lighting will be fine. Most everything will grow in even 2 wpg (although it's a very crude rule). Things just grow slower with less light, which may not be a bad thing, as the plants will require less co2, ferts, trimming, etc. Good luck with the new setup!

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went to the LFS, got a few plants 3 varieties total. Foreground is micro sword, not sure about the background plants

I just finished planting them, and it was kinda a crapshoot..after I placed about 2 plants the tank became so cloudy I couldn't see anything, now its a big mess, does this happen all the time after you disturb the substrate? I wonder, flourite red may have been a bad choice
Get a photo of the new plants when you can. I'm sure we can help ID them.

Did you rinse the flourite before adding it? This helps reduce the dust/cloudiness that it can cause. If not, it will probably cloud up for a bit, but eventually should settle into place. Just be careful when you move plants and use filter floss to help remove the cloud quicker

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Well, I have some bad news. The tank somehow sprung a leak, I found water pooling under the glass top so I knew I had to act fast. I drained the tank, got all the rocks and substrate out, and moved my plants to my brothers tank..minor setback.

Now I have to find a good sealant and seal every connection in the tank. Ah well at least on the bright side I get to finally properly wash out my fluorite gravel..I kinda did it so-so in the beginning, and I can level it out better, I put waaaay to much in last time.

Thanks for the replys
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