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My Blue Ram Dezi

I just got a new camera and have been trying it out...here is the best picture so far of my blue ram Dezi...
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Very nice, one of my favorite fish.
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nice, but he looks a bit skinny. i like the extended rays though, my ram doesnt have those.

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Thanks for the comments, he has actually filled out a bit since I got him. I agree though, he could use to bulk up
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I believe your 'he' is a 'she'...

"Males and females look similar, except males have a longer black spike on their dorsal fin and have no blue markings in their black spot on their side."

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What size tank is it in? You should get a mate for it, they're very cool to watch together. I had a pair spawn several times in a 30 gal about 5-6 years ago....


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nope that is a male. the males sometimes have elongated first 3 rays of the dorsal and females almost never do (such as this one has). females are more likely to have red/pink bellies (such as this one does NOT have). and the sure-fire way to tell is that in females the blue shine on the scales goes all the way through the black dot, in males it doesnt.

dont get a mate unless you have strong fish that can fend themselves, when i had 2 rams, the male constantly followed the female and whenever any other fish got anywhere close, he attacked them. he even tried to beat up my boesemani rainbow.

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I believe your 'he' is a 'she'...

"Males and females look similar, except males have a longer black spike on their dorsal fin and have no blue markings in their black spot on their side."
Do you not see the long spike on the dorsal fin?


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"...have no blue markings in their black spot on their side..."

Geez. Just an observation, though I'm no ichthyologist...

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"...have no blue markings in their black spot on their side..."

Geez. Just an observation, though I'm no ichthyologist...

sorry.
Sorry if that came accross harsh. no ill intent was meant. The blue markings can be a false indicator. the coloration of the fish in general is usually a good sign. the females are a duller color pattern.


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Definitely a male, he has a female in there with him. It looks like the female may be getting ready to lay eggs. They are in a 46 gallon bowfront. They will attack other fish if the fish get too close to their chosen egg-laying spot, but besides that they completely leave them alone. They are really fun to watch.
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Cool. You didn't mention you had a pair. He just seemed so slender like I remembered my female was...
Mine had bleeding hearts & glowlights in with them and they knew when to stay away- They would be corralled in the opposite end of the tank at spawning time.
They really are beautiful little fish!


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I believe your 'he' is a 'she'...

"Males and females look similar, except males have a longer black spike on their dorsal fin and have no blue markings in their black spot on their side."

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Its a gorgeous male! I had two pairs in my 55g a while back.

Females tend to be much duller. And thick! They also pretty much never have the extended front spike but it can be confusing, I've gotten more "females" that are actually males than I can count on my fingers

I want to get another pair eventually and put them in a 20g or so, they're some of my all time favorite fish!

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That's a nice blue rams. Does anyone know how to get blue rams through on line? I can't find one in Boston.
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I'm looking forward to getting a blue ram myself. But not for awhile. I was thinking of getting a pair, but after reading people's experiences, I guess I will refrain as I don't want the extra aggression toward my other fish (planning on cardinals and tetras) during spawning season.

As far as getting blue rams, you can get them from liveaquaria, although it's not worth it if you're just getting one or two. The shipping cost is overnight for $35, so I'd order from them if you're getting a lot of fish.
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I'm looking forward to getting a blue ram myself. But not for awhile. I was thinking of getting a pair, but after reading people's experiences, I guess I will refrain as I don't want the extra aggression toward my other fish (planning on cardinals and tetras) during spawning season.

As far as getting blue rams, you can get them from liveaquaria, although it's not worth it if you're just getting one or two. The shipping cost is overnight for $35, so I'd order from them if you're getting a lot of fish.
Thanks a lot for your information. If I can't find one store with blue ram, I think this is the only one way I can do.
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