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post #1 of 268 (permalink) Old 12-20-2007, 05:16 PM Thread Starter
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Beautiful tanks waterfaller!
I have to admit I'm pretty much saltwater illiterate...lol...I've always loved the look of reef setups but just been too intimidated to take the plunge I guess.


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Awesome tanks! I agree with jinx about the saltwater thing. Maybe someday...


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Love the giant clam and the blue starfish.

I shyed away from SW too...couldn't bear the possible financial hit if one of my critters died.
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Waterfaller - Your tanks are amazing. I have several questions for you:

How difficult do you thing keeping reef tanks are compared to planted tanks?

How do you like that nano cube for your mini reef? Did you make any mods like lighting, protien skimmer, etc?

I have been eyeballing a nano cube for a mini reef for a while, but I don't know if I want to mess with trying to cram light kits into the hood or just go with the 28 gallon HQI.

Great tanks dude!
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I had a small reef for 10+ yrs (20 gallon with MH lights). Now just getting back in to planted tanks. I'd say they're pretty close if you are comparing hi-tech in both categories, but planted is less stressful as far as maintenance goes.

Reefs might be a little more difficult to control nutrients so a good water purification system can become important, depending on your source water. If you do a sump well, you can harvest some algae to help with nutrients. There's the calcium reactor which is about equivalent to doing pressurized CO in the planted tank. Quality lights are equally important with reefs requiring more wattage. I think the livestock in reefs might be a little more expensive but most are no less hardy given the correct conditions.

Algae control in the reef is more difficult than a planted tank and almost any dummy (a relative) can sit a freshwater tank and do water changes where finding a competent sitter for the reef was almost impossible.

I'd say planted is less stressful given you can be a little more lax on water quality and it is easier to leave them in the hands of a care taker.
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Waterfaller - Your tanks are amazing. I have several questions for you:

How difficult do you thing keeping reef tanks are compared to planted tanks?

How do you like that nano cube for your mini reef? Did you make any mods like lighting, protien skimmer, etc?

I have been eyeballing a nano cube for a mini reef for a while, but I don't know if I want to mess with trying to cram light kits into the hood or just go with the 28 gallon HQI.

Great tanks dude!
Keeping a reef requires alot of research,& a great LFS geared towards reefs.
It is not inexpensive, but a nano is much easier now than it was in the past. I love my nano.
It took me several years to get where I am{since 03'} and they are not flawless. I still battle algae, aiptasia, mojano,planeria, and if I am not extremely careful~ redbugs~acro eating flatworms, montipora eating nudibranchs, flukes, ich....the list is long.
If careful selection of corals, fish, inverts, is taken into consideration and bulbs are changed when due, water changes performed weekly, with QUALITY salt mix, top off with fresh RO/DI daily..the nano does extremely well without dosing.
The lighting is stock, and as you see my corals hold their color.
No protein skimmer on the nano. Only small fish are kept , and my clean-up crew is efficient and diverse.
Don't take this the wrong way please...but coming here to learn about fw planted was harder for me than the reefkeeping. The reefkeeping community as a whole, seems more forthcoming with info than the fw community. I was very intimidated when I first started reasearching this. An RO/DI unit is a must, with quality filters..not the home improvement store type.
Mods to the nano are:
Pump has to be changed
Surface skimmer is added
I can help you find your way around if you are serious, just let me know.
Oh..and it's 'dudette'
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"Don't take this the wrong way please...but coming here to learn about fw planted was harder for me than the reefkeeping. The reefkeeping community as a whole, seems more forthcoming with info than the fw community."

I've been out of reefs for a couple years, but was a regular on reefcentral and reefs.org and have noticed that too. Do you think this is because there are a lot of "aquascape" type planted tank competitions whereas I don't recall that for reefs (this might have changed over the last few years).

While there is a lot of swap/sales here, I also think the reef hobby was more dependent upon itself for propagating livestock (coral anyways) and better learning to care for it. Helping someone out further achieved that goal with little lost in the way of competition.
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Sorry dudette. Are you running an 12 DX? I was thinking about adding another light or two and changing from 50/50 bulbs to streight 20000K and actnics. Any thoughts?
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Hey Watterfaller1 where in Orlando do you get your salty stuff?
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There are some tough to keep corals in that 90g. they look awesome! Good job.

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Very pretty tanks.


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That blue acro is stunning. Nice job!


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Thanks everyone for such kind words.
Yes, it is a DX. Personally I would not put a ton of light over a NC unless you have a plan to keep it cool with extra fans and possibly a chiller. Certainly not within the hood. It's already borderline IMO, and I keep my home cool & I changed out the pump. Then there is the option to remove the top and run a pendant or clip-on, but every sw nano fish can/may jump.
As I said, careful selection of corals and they keep their color just fine without a bunch of light. I have had some of those corals in that tank about three years....and they still look good.
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Hey Watterfaller1 where in Orlando do you get your salty stuff?
Missed this before..only 1 place in Orlando~ Sea In The City. I am partial, as I worked there for years, even for the original owner. A funny thing happened. A customer and her husband were there one day. I recognized her from when we were 6 years old..in NJ...over 40 years ago! She bought the shop, and we became best friends!
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