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New liverwort found in CA by Sasquawatch

Well, not really although some have called me that and the liverwort is found naturally growing in the area of CA often labeled as sasquawatch land.

The light levels are extremely low, these are all hand held images at 1/15th of second. I do not drink coffee obviously
I measured 20 micro moles of light in most sections. That was at full sun, so these trees make it like night. Yes, they are 300-350ft tall and even the little ones in an old growth forest like this outsize everything you have seen beside the Sequoia up in the sierras.

The forest is massive, you cannot understand the scale in any of the pics, there is more biomass per acre than any other type of ecosystem in the world, tropical rainforest include, which this is (temperate, about 80 inches a per year). This is an extremely lush place. We took a 10 mile hike to the ocean along this trail and it was solid 200-350ft forest the whole way packed with 5- 6 species of ferns, trees growing on top of trees.

Close up of it on rocks:


Fern canyon, a 50 ft deep canyon and creek that's about 3/4 mile like this. Rare "tailed" frogs live here, only saw tad poles this time.



Pic of the liverwort in the water:


Note, moving water and no light and no tripod!

Very common on rocks.

Here's a very pretty little falls with 5 fingered ferns:



Here's the pic of a slug eating sasaquawatch. Note the size of these leaves. They are gaints. So are banana slugs if you have never seen a whopper.



Close up of the 5 fingered fern:



And to give some idea of the scale of these trees:


We saw hundreds of trees this size or larger.



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You should see places like this before you die and then protect them so that the future can be left in awe.

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hey tom, ive been looking for the name of that liverwort for a while... if you get it id love to know.


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nice liverwort... ♪♪
comparing its looks to pelia, it seems sturdy, robust, and tight and compact

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if you see it up close it looks more like a tiny little fern. it has what looks like stems, and little leaves that are attached.


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hey tom, ive been looking for the name of that liverwort for a while... if you get it id love to know.
Same here. Great pictures, beautiful location.
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Scapania sp

anyway you could get us some?

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Scapania sp
damn... looks right to me.

where did you find this info?

doesn't grow submerged...for me


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Very pretty plant I wish I had some. The color is crisp dark green amazing.
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anyway you could get us some?
I got quite a bit, it's not the first time I've tried to grow it, it does like cool, dim tanks.

I got some that was attached to the rock outside the area (I take only pics in side parks, like everyone should).

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It's like your in Jurassic Park.
Very much so. No dinosauars, but the herb of Elk are pretty good sized.
This forest makes the Muir woods place look like toothpicks and it just goes on for miles.

You go over a few miles outside the park(where logging occured), there are hardly any of these cool species, the species drops off by no less than 80% that of old growth.

It's one thing to hear about it, it's quite another to come here, walk through on, then go see what a logged forest, even 50-100 after looks like and redwoods are some of the fastest growing trees.

This is pretty close to the Headwater's old Growth forest where they have all the activist tree huggers trying to stop logging of old growth.

All you have to do is walk through the forest and you'd immediately feel the same unless you are a logger or have been bought out by the logging companies. They still have the secondary growth and like any farmer, then can tend their land they've already loused up and grow the trees they need there.

They wanna do slash and burn type of agriculture here.
Fortunately, that was stopped and a lot of serious fights will occur for here on if they wanna pursue that path.

I think it's criminal.
The courts thought so also.

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It's like your in Jurassic Park.
Very much so. No dinosauars, but the herd of Elk are pretty good sized.
This forest makes the Muir woods place look like toothpicks and it just goes on for miles. This place is so much more richer.

You go over a few miles outside the park(where logging occured), there are hardly any of these cool species, the species drops off by no less than 80% that of old growth. Geeze.......they just lopped out the tops of mountains clear cutting, you can see 10-20 years later.

It's one thing to hear about it, it's quite another to come here, walk through on, then go see what a logged forest, even 50-100 after looks like and redwoods are some of the fastest growing trees.

This is pretty close to the Headwater's old Growth forest where they have all the activist tree huggers trying to stop logging of old growth.

All you have to do is walk through the forest and you'd immediately feel the same unless you are a logger or have been bought out by the logging companies. They still have the secondary growth and like any farmer, then can tend their land they've already loused up and grow the trees they need there.

They wanna do slash and burn style/type of agriculture here.
Fortunately, that was stopped and a lot of serious fights will occur for here on if they wanna pursue that path.

I think it's criminal.
The courts thought so also.
It's fine if you do not agree with this environmental agenda, but until you experience an issue in person and see it, then you can truly understand it.

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what a huge tree. the liverwort in water pics looks amazing too. is that river really that shallow?


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is that river really that shallow?
I have not been to this river but pretty much every river I have been in or on has many different depths depending on what the river bed is made of, the flow rate, and path of the river.

Sweet pictures BTW.


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