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mmenz22779 55 gal Journal- 56k Warning

So far Here is my set up

I have a carbon filter and a power head as to control the water and make it flow.

I have live rock, and bamboo plants and Anubis for plants (so far I get a shipment in this week of 40+ new plants)

Fish are the following

3 pletcos (all small)
1 Large common pletco
3 (Chinese algae eaters)
4 Green Tiger Barbs
4 Tiger Barbs
4 T-barbs-
4 Giant Danios
2 Red tail sharks (1 Small 1 Med)-
2 Convicts and 4 Pink
3 Blue channel cats
2 Picus cats
2 Jack Demsey
Some drift wood and rocks.


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6/19 but before adding 40 more plants




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This week i get a shipment of 40 plants i will post images when i get them.

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looks nice and natural so far. If the bamboo does not grow out of the water, it will die; it is not a true aquatic plant.

4x CAE in a 55 is more than enough.

Be sure to post the pics once you get the new plants. I'm eager to see how it works out with the covects [sic] and jack demsiey [sic]. are those geophagus in there too?

I'd only suggest a better background for your tank and for spelling. I take the latter back if English is not your native language.
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Is this the same tank that we were commenting on how you had wayyyyyyyy to many big fish https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ge...g-eco-bio.html, and you were stating that everything had a purpose?

If so why make a new thread about it
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Umm, dude have you ever seen a grown blue channel cat?
let's just say they can get about as big as your tank.....at least.

crayfish DON't belong in a planted tank unless they are DWARF crayfish.
4 plecos will shredd your plants unless, again they are DWARF plecos.
Chinese algae eaters are fairly aggressive, but will work.

4 line pictus cats get pretty big too.
you may have problems keeping all the cichlids from eating the plants.

oh, and any shrimp introduced to that tank will be shredded and digested rapidly.

besides those problems, the tank does look pretty good.

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That bamboo, the leafs needs to be out of water

One month in.
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Aquaman3000 - I fixed the images thanks

Macclellan - the bamboo I used to have in it for about grew too big so I moved it to a vase and put in new bamboo. I know it should rot but my others grew so big. I think the light made them grow faster so they had no time to rot. If they do rot I will pull them out. I know I get lazy in typing sorry I will be better in the future. I will post new pics when I get them. I am also having a baby this week. It was supposed to be here last week. While I was home for the month I am going to work on my tank in my spare time. Funny huh.

IROC- Good point originally I meant to have one post as I had some questions then I saw you could display your stuff so I used some of the same info. I have since changed this post so it is now different. Some pictures are the same though. Sorry call it a Noobee learning thing please have patience with me. I don’t want to piss anyone off as this is a great forum. I am so happy to have found it.

Dufus,- to tell you the truth I always had community tank, this is my first shot at an aggressive tank so I am learning as I go. The crayfish crawled out last night, and I found him dried up on my floor and 3 Danios hoped out. I have since put an screen on the back of the tank.

The plants I have are all plants that fish don’t like to eat. The big nana I have had for around 6 months and they don’t touch it. As far as the other mix I have I will see how it goes. If things get out of control then I will adjust the tank. But I am having super fun with the tank.

I appreciate the feedback as I am learning what to do with this tank and how to mix the fish.

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3 pletcos (all small) don't know what kind - you need to find out as these can get HUGE
1 Large common pletco - Will need to be rehomed
3 (Chinese algae eaters) -
4 Green Tiger Barbs
4 medium Tiger Barbs - what is a medium barb?
4 medium T-barbs- is this differnt then the above barb?
4 Giant Danios most likely
2 red tail sharks (1 Small 1 Med)- these usualy better with more or only 1 in my opition
2 black Convicts and 4 Pink Convicts?. - need to rehome unless you take everything else out of the tank
3 blue channel cats- need to rehome
2 Picus cats
2 Jack Demsey - need to rehome or take everything else out.

Just my 2 cents
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Corrections

3 pletcos (all small)
1 Large common pletco
3 (Chinese algae eaters)
4 Green Tiger Barbs
4 Tiger Barbs
4 T-barbs-
4 Giant Danios
2 Red tail sharks (1 Small 1 Med)-
2 Convicts and 4 Pink
3 Blue channel cats
2 Picus cats
2 Jack Demsey
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I know about the cats i have had cats in the past and they nevery grew that big, the pitcus cats if you can see them are nearly 5 years old now.

The blue channel cats are new.

4 of the cichlids are 2 years old

The the bigger shark is 2 years old.
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I would rehome the channel cats, they DO get too big, the pictus are ~ok~ for now, but putting channel cats ina 55 is like keeping a saint bernard in a 1 bedroom apartment.

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3 pletcos (all small) Are they DWARF? or are they just small, they will ggrow over 14" is not dwarves
1 Large common pletco -as will the large pleco3 (Chinese algae eaters)- ok.
4 Green Tiger Barbs ok
4 Tiger Barbs-ok
4 T-barbs- what are these?
4 Giant Danios -ok
2 Red tail sharks (1 Small 1 Med)-most "sharks", especially red tail and rainbows DO NOT like their own kind
2 Convicts and 4 Pink- not the best choice because they are very prolific breeders, and fairly aggressive, but ok, although i would recoomend getting rid of 2 of them.
3 Blue channel cats- WAAAAAY too big.
2 Picus cats- possibly ok.
2 Jack Demsey- fairly aggressive, but alright.

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Excuse this post but.........

You don't seem to have done any checking before you bought fish or plants. I know you said you have been keeping fish for over 10 years but if you were keeping a mix like you have now you been doing it inhumanly for over 10 years.

Everyone on this forum is trying to help YOU help your FISH. You simply put have too many big fish for a 55 gal tank. You started this thread like you had this vast amount of knowledge about fish and the bioload and having some Eco complete tank, but the plants you have will not combat the amount of poop from the plecos at all (I don't actually know how the 2 go together anyway but I am a newbie) The way your keeping fish reminds me of a petco or petsmart, sorry....

Please see estimates of your fish sizes below:

3 pletcos (all small) don't know what kind – could be up to 30 inches each = 90inches
1 Large common pletco - up to 30 inches = 30 inches
3 (Chinese algae eaters) up to 11 inches each (more commonly 6-7 inches) = 21 inches
4 Green Tiger Barbs – about 3 inches each = 12 inches
4 medium Tiger Barbs – about 3 inches each = 12 inches
4 medium T-barbs- about 3 inches each = 12 inches
4 Giant Danios most likely – 6 inches each = 24 inches
2 red tail sharks (1 Small 1 Med)- 5 inches each = 10 inches
2 black Convicts and 4 Pink Convicts?. – 5 inches each = 30 inches
3 blue channel cats- 44 inches each = 88 inches
2 Picus cats – 7 inches each (if they are the 4 lined) = 14 inches
2 Jack Demsey – 12 inches each = 24 inches

That is a total of 532 inches of fish for a 55 gal tank which is about 477 inches to much using the 1 inch per gal rule.

All this info was from http://www.elmersaquarium.com/000tropfishcareguides.htm you should check it out because it would be a good stating place for groups that tend to go together

Also posted in your other thread for the effect
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