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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-11-2006, 10:14 PM Thread Starter
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Rethinking the 33 gallon, new layout

Moved that crazy Cichlid off to a new home, some guy with huge tanks wanted it.



The new layout. And yes, I moved to an undergravel filter. I don't care what you HOB fanboys say, I prefer this setup. And my water cleared much faster. - The goldfish in the breeder net are just there for the cycle, giving the plants some time to root. (BTW, I use Hagen "cycle" on all my tanks. I've never had to worry about that whole ammonia->nitrite->nitrate startup period.)






The writing you see on the log is just a reflection on the glass.

[plants]
Water Wisteria [Hygrophila Difformis]
Java Moss [Vesicularia dubyana]
Some mystery plant that hitched along.
One leaf of Java Fern [Microsorum pteropus] that hitched along, maybe it'll come to life. Just floating about in the tank now.

[filter]
UGF (har har har!) with two 125gph power heads.

[heat]
Powerheads... 100watt heater... lights

[lighting]
Coralife dual t5 fixture
1* 21 watt 10k white
1* 21 watt 6.7k day
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Looking good, but you might want to add more plants. Are you going to use any Co2 on the tank?
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I like it. Once the wisteria and the moss grows in it will look pretty good.
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I won't be using any co2, and yeah I'll wait to see how it looks as the wisteria and moss fulls in a it. I may or may not add more plants.
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I am slowly coming to appreciate the natural look of simple planted tanks, and would like to see them more often.
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Just picked up another coralife dual t5 fixture, so now there are 3x 21watt 6700k bulbs and 1x 21watt 10,000k bulb, rounding out at 84 watts, giving me 2.5~ watts per gallon

Oh, and four amano shrimp.
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nice lookin tank i really like your simple scape the wood is great!

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I'm going to wait for the Wisteria to grow and the moss to continue spreading, then look at the tank and see where it needs more cover, etc. Either it'll be good as it is, or I'll be adding some more background and middleground plants. I plan to leave the front pretty much open, but we'll see.

I've added the fish
14 Silver Tip Tetras
4 Colombian Tetras
6 Serpae Tetras
1 Otto (the other died within a few hours of introduction... crappy...)
4 Amano Shrimp

The silver tips were schooling very tightly, but also hiding a lot. When I added the other fish they were much more comfortable in the tank, but also stopped schooling as tightly as before. In any case, the tank looks very pleasant now with continuous, but not frantic, activity everywhere. The colombian tetras are -insane- at feeding time.

Some shoddy pictures;





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Great start. I'll be interested in seeing how well the Aqualight T-5's do. They seem to be a good price.
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Weekly growth progress. Having a bit of a green hair/fur algae issue.

added a second otto
added 2 SAEs

Dosing flourish iron with each water change, macros every second day. Flourish excel daily, overdosing at the moment (15ml/day)





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Another week, another growth update.




Dosing Excel has stopped the rampant spread of hair algae, the ottos seem to be ignoring the brown diatomic algae on some of the lower leaves which is a bother... the SAEs cleaned off some crazy black goopy algae from the java moss (hurray) and have started eating some of the hair algae. The Amano shrimp have kept the hair algae off the logs quite well.

Also added a Nutrafin DIY Co2 system. It took about 3 days to get a respectable bubble rate. I blocked one of the top holes to stop the bubbles from escaping entirely if they haven't been absorbed yet, seems to be working ok.
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Gah, the Hair Algae is going insane...

I pulled off all these threads yesterday night, they're back already;






My poor java moss is infested;


Lovely carpet of hair algae that pretty much covers the whole tank, ugh;


5 Malaysian Trumpet snails (soon to be billions I'm sure)
10 "Itty Bitty" snails (soon to be billions I'm sure)
4 Amano Shrimp
2 SAEs
1 Pleco


Hair Algae is growing much faster than they eat it.
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Lesson learned, could also be due to not planting heavly and neglect of keeping the tank balanced.
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Po4 and No3 are normal, I don't have an iron test kit, tho I suspect I should get one. I've stopped dosing altogether, but was previously doing 2ml of FE every second day and 3ml of macro once a week. The Co2 is limited to the production of whatever the yeast can manage in the little nutrafin can, I'll try and setup a 2L popcan to replace it. I've started to overdose excel in the meantime (15ml day 1, 20ml day 2, repeat.) to try and hold back the hair algae. The plants are still pearling pretty well.

The snails have already laid a few eggsacks, so I doubt it'll be long before the tank is overflowing with them. If the excel and pleco (The SAEs just aren't huge volume eaters, nor are the shrimp) don't start to beat back the algae I figure the snails will overpower it in sheer numbers.

The tank isn't very heavily planted yet, but growth was very rapid, I was just relying on propogation. However, it seems that with my high lighting the algae had the upper hand.
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