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20G Starphire -=Iwagumi x Dutch=-

Tank: 20g Starphire
Light: Wavepoint 24" 24watt x 4 T5 HO
Filter: Eheim Pro ?? chained to 2 old Fluval 303's with bio media
Co2: Soon
Ferts: Dry weekly dosing
Substrate: ADA AS New Amazonia
Hardscape: Seiryu stone approx 10lbs
Plants: HC, Tropica 49, Nesaea crassicaulis, persicaria ruby, Downoi, Limnophila Aromatica, R. Macrandra Japan Red
Fauna: unsure

Here is the hardscape what looks good what could use a change?? Disregard the blue reef lights mybulbs haven't arrived yet.


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I like the look. FYI you have way more light than needed with 2 bulbs let alone 4. With 2 you will want to raise the fixture well above the tank.


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Thanks I will be hanging the light, gonna weld a frame and get some hangers and chain. Any comments as to what I can do with the hardscape or does it look okay?
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Thanks I will be hanging the light, gonna weld a frame and get some hangers and chain. Any comments as to what I can do with the hardscape or does it look okay?
i like the hardscape, if i'd change anything i'd maybe get one taller rock to put on the left side to replace the bigger one, just to break up the empty space. but it's pretty good as is, IMO.
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Aesthetically I really like it, but I would swap a larger one in for the large stone on the right and maybe slope it a touch more in the back right corner. The only issue is that it is a short layout, you'll need short plants or the hardscape will get lost.

Looks very nice, IMO.


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Aesthetically I really like it, but I would swap a larger one in for the large stone on the right and maybe slope it a touch more in the back right corner. The only issue is that it is a short layout, you'll need short plants or the hardscape will get lost.

Looks very nice, IMO.
right, or left? i thought on the right would i dunno make it too balanced, like make two focal points of the hardscape...
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Thanks for the feedback! It's greatly appreciated.

I tried to boost the rock and it for some reason just doesn't look right. All the lfs in my area are all out of seiryu except for maybe some small golf ball sized pieces. I was fortunate enough to win this set of rocks in auction earlier today for a fairly decent price.

I also like symmetrical layouts although I wanted to try something a little different with a high side sloping down and a little valley path separating the lower side.
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BTW plants listed are not all going in I haven't exactly made up my mind aside from tropica, hc and aromatica.
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Update: DSM HC added, I trimmed up my Tropica and will be adding that along with glosso tonight.



The tank will be an Iwagumi X Dutch hybrid.
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I planted some of the tropica and glosso. I have some downoi that will go above the flat rock and then the other side (back slope) will be more tropica. The right side wall and around the bac of the front rock will be more glosso. Still deciding on the stem plants I wanna use. I have to add my nesaea crassicaulis to this tank. Probably left back corner.

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...lis_Bjarne.jpg

I also wanna add some limnophilia aromatica.

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...aaromatica.jpg

I am also goin to be adding R. Macrandra sp. Japan Red

http://www.aquabotanic.com/wp-conten...anda_Jared.jpg

My reasons for adding these plants is I think Iwagumi style can be a little boring. I like dutch, but the upkeep is rather high. So a hybrid tank seems to be a good balance. Also this is the most thoroughly equipped tank I currently have. So I think I can really bring out the true beauty and color of these amazing stem plants utilizing this tank.

BTW: I boosted the Focal rock up higher in the picture it's flipped the wrong way, But I fixed it.
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Added a few more things. I made a layout list, I still can't figure out what to put in the areas marked "??" in red, anyone have some advice on what would look good and will stay fairly short and won't draw too much attention?? what do you think so far? feed back of any sort?

I feel like I have made steady progress. Anyone have some advice as to when I should cut off the dry start and flood? I know normally people wait 2-8 weeks.
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Beautiful looking start and setup.

Maybe some dwarf hair grass in the ?? areas.


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Hey Zenzu!

Looks like a fantastic start, but I would be careful about adding the Limnophilia aromatica and the Nesaea crassicaulis to this tank. They will get enormous and make things look a bit odd. Best choose different species that will look a bit more "dainty" and respond well to trimming. I would suggest Limnophilia "mini vietnam" instead of the aromatica, though you could try Limnophila repens if you want something that has a bit more red color to it. Instead of Nesaea crassiscaulis, you could plant a few stems of Ludwigia senegalensis, Ludwigia sp. "Red," or a smaller Rotala species, like "Sunset," for a smaller, daintier looking red plant.
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Nice looking start...
I had the same thoughts as crazydaz. Nesaea gets very large and may interfere with the balance of the scape. In my 75 gal., it gets over 7+ inches wide from leaf tip to tip. I find if I keep anymore than 3 or so stems it takes up way too much space. Some smaller leaved stems may be a better idea for a tank this size.
I do like the rock placement and am interested in watching it progress.
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