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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-15-2012, 07:16 AM Thread Starter
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Richard's 36"x20"x20" 60 gallon Rimless Starphire Build

Hi everyone

You may remember me from such tanks as:

3'x14"x18" Planted tank



270 gallon gallon Low Tech Journal




I disappeared for a few years into marine keeping, and general life, however I am keen to start another tank now (with a better budget and with some better technology out there)



I have a journal on another site, but I won't bore you with my ramblings. here are some pictures and planning I thought I'd share with the more international community

Stock acquired.
ATI SunPower 4 X 39Watt 36" fitting
2 X Aquablue 12000k bulbs + 2 X powerglo bulbs
Cal aqua labs lilly pipes
Cal aqua labs 'clip' co2 drop checker
Clear tubing
Eheim 2217
Eheim 2213 (for quarantine)
ADA Aquasoil Amazonia 'New' X 3 Bags
ADA Aquasoil Amazonia 'New' Powder type X 1 Bag
ADA Powersand M X 1 Bag

Orders put through:
1 X Walnut stained cabinet 'ariel' style (same as my old tank above... I REALLY like the design)
1 X 36X20X20" Starphire 4 sides, bevelled glass, rimless, frameless

Quotes put out:
Plants for day 1
CO2 kit (tank, regulator, bubble counter, diffuser/ reactor)
Planting equipment (curved tweezers/ sand leveller)

To be done:

Source amazing rocks/ driftwood. This is currently annoying for me as I haven't gone out to check local nurseries.
Source 2 X Hydor ETH 300watt inline heater (one for backup)
Agree stocking of tank and order fish to quarantine
Purchase a dip solution for new plants (to prevent snails/ pests entering tank)
Handyman to help hang lights from ceiling, alternately buy light hanging system from Aquascapedesign.
Electrician to wire light through ceiling
Purchase 'pure' fertilisers to dose EI method
Purchase purigen sachets for filter
Purchase fish food (likely to be NLS tropical pellets, and frozen bloodworm)
Consider an auto doser for EI method (to automate fertilising, and reduce my workload)

Planted tank design mock up and plan (it'll look different depending on whether I can source the right rocks/ dressing sand)



Foreground (~50% of tank footprint)
HC - lots...
Pogostemon helferi x 10 plants

Mid ground
Blyxa japonica x 10 plants
Staurogyne repens x 25 stems

Rear Corner (~25% of the tank foot print)
Selection of stem plants (I'm less fussy about these I'd just like a great mix of leaf shapes and colours, with 1 to 2 pinks and reds in here)
Limnophila aromatica x 25 stems
Rotala rotundifola x 25 stems
Rotala sp. green X30 stems
Amania gracilis X 25 stems
Rotala wallichii X 20 stems

Fish/ invert plan
Otocinclus
NT algae eating shrimp
1 SAE possibly..
Corydoras (school of pygmae, panda or caudimaculatus)
Schooling fish - possibly a school of blue eyes...


Solid pine cabinet, incredible (stained everywhere, has a flat top like a real cabinet, interior shelving, backing wood panel... just incredible quality. I am thoroughly impressed with Dalbarb)

You don't get this quality with the newer style flat pack (but it normally would cost a lot more too)





ATI lighting (still working out a smart way to hook it up electrical wiring wise into the ceiling)



Aquasoil (who doesn't love pictures of aquasoil...)





Quarantine tank (holding plants atm and cycling)



Cal Aqua Lab Lilly pipes (thanks Jag Aquatic Layouts)



My little nano (by my computer) I will probably put some Microrasbora briggitae and galaxy rasbora in here.


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As an addendum:

I've had a lot of planted tanks, and made a LOT of mistakes. I'm hoping to make fewer in this tank

I thought I'd share some of my more 'ghetto' tanks

My first tank

~1999 29 gallon breeder, courtesy of my uncle. DIY Co2, DIY Ferts, gravel substrate, poor mans ghetto lighting (note alfoil 'reflectors')





Ghetto Co2



I was supremely proud to get Co2 going, back when there wasn't a whole lot of planted tank hobbyists in Australia.

My 2nd 'bachelor tank'

~2001 55 gallon tank, low light no CO2, used 2 commercial sized anubias 'mother plants' (these are the plants they take cuttings off to make the smaller plants you see for sale) effectively experimented with 'no substrate' (note the 1/2cm of gravel, all plants like hygrophila were grown in tubs) extremely low maintenance, I really enjoyed the act of just feeding the fish!

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Great project log! It's fascinating to see how other people have evolved alongside their hobby!
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More for your viewing pleasure.

Tank delivered

90X50X50cm Starphire 4 sides, bevelled glass, frameless, rimless - THANK YOU AQUARISTIC. Victor is a class act, and the tank is flawless. I've never had such a beautifully crafted tank before, and I've owned a lot of tanks.

Lights hung

Here are some pictures to keep you guys interested in my build :P







Still some delays in CO2 regulator (using Co2Pro2 from Aquascapedesign)

Awaiting sera 500 reactor from [Ebay Link Removed]

Still not happy with the quality of rock/ driftwood I see out there, nothing that just screams very high grade... in shrimp terms I'm looking for SSS and above.
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night of planting



day after

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Question posted elsewhere as well as I'm interested in answers on dosing regime (about 3-5 co2 bubbles per second, can't really count them!)

quick question re my tank (~225 litres)

My initial dosing regime will be, every 2nd day.

1/2 tsp KNO3
1/8 tsp Trace minerals
1/8 tsp KH2PO4 Monopotassium phosphate

I will try to find 1/16 measure teaspoons as I prefer to daily dose (it's a habit thing)

Water params pre dosing seem to be as follow:

5PPM Nitrates (from ADA soil I presume)
0PPM Phosphate
3.5dKh General Hardness

Any comments?

hrmm using the above guide and a calculator I get the following (225 litre tank volume, 10ml solutions, dosing 10mls)

1/2 teaspoon KNO3
= 8.17ppm nitrate in 225 litres
= 5.16ppm K

1/8 teaspoon Ko2PO4
2.56 ppm phosphate
= 1.05ppm potassium

So every dosing would bump the following up:

Nitrate by 8.17ppm
Potassium by 6.21ppm
Phosphate by 2.56ppm

Also added Staurogyne sp.



and added a 4.5kg co2 bottle, matched with an aquascapedesign co2 pro2 regulator.

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It looks awesome! Keep up the great work! That first tank in your first post is absolutely stunning. Thank you for sharing.
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It looks awesome! Keep up the great work! That first tank in your first post is absolutely stunning. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks, loved that tank, very low maintenance too that tank... just feed the fish, prune sometimes, and replace co2 :P

Day 2, water cleared up, cleaned some of the notorious floating aquasoil up.


Plants starting to 'adjust' and open leaves, co2 is pumping (green almost turning to yellow co2 drop checker) and lots of pearling

This is the view from my lounge (one of the main purposes of having a '2 side viewable' scape

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Wow that is a nice looking tank!
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Sure do remember you nornicle, from your awesome 270gal tank! Welcome back!

Can't see the pics right now, perhaps because I am at work.


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that ati sunpower is sweet wondering if it would be too strong for plants?
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Oh, those rimless tanks are gorgeous. I'm very jealous. Love the 'scape design as well. Very nice!
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Hi Wasserpest - I've followed your tanks for a long time! I hope to have more long term tanks now that I'm a little more settled

ADAtank - yes I believe Tom Barr says the intensity is 25-30% more than normal 4 tube T5s. that said the tank is 50cm deep, pumping a LOT of Co2 (>5bps), and being fed nutrients heavily. The light is about 8 inch off the surface.

Also notice that even 1/2 hour before the lights go out the plants have shut shop for the day (leaves closed) on an 8.5 hour photoperiod.

My fertilisation schedule which I'll alter is to start with every 2nd day:
2/3 teaspoon KNo3
1/6 teaspoon Ko2Po4
1/6 teaspoon micronutrients

50% water changes twice weekly, and go down to one week when I feel things are stable.

Already noticing some leaves showing signs of adaptation due to the different conditions.
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That's a nicely built aquarium. Love the planting you've done, the mix of colors is great.


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