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Ten gallon tank

Ok here is a ten gallon tank that I've gotten setup in the computer room.
It's running 2 13w screw in PC lamps, a Penguin biowheel filter, no CO2 yet, but I'm hoping to experiment with that soon.

The substrate is peat moss, sand, and gravel mixed. I'm going to add some latarite to the substrate pretty soon.

Have neons, guppies, danios, and a pair of Mickey Mouse Platys as residents.

Oh the bubbles in back are a bubble curtain air stone.

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Looks good, are you going to fill it up all the way?
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Ok here is a ten gallon tank that I've gotten setup in the computer room.
It's running 2 13w screw in PC lamps, a Penguin biowheel filter, no CO2 yet, but I'm hoping to experiment with that soon.

The substrate is peat moss, sand, and gravel mixed. I'm going to add some latarite to the substrate pretty soon.

Have neons, guppies, danios, and a pair of Mickey Mouse Platys as residents.

Oh the bubbles in back are a bubble curtain air stone.

plant on the far left is terrestrial, it will die in the tank very soon. DONT ADD AN AIRSTONE! plants need CO2 to grow, adding O2 will drive away any CO2 thats in the water. You should make a simple DIY Co2 setup, asap.
Looks nice and clean otherwise. I would take out the peat moss, and add laterite asap too.

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I think Java moss would look good on the stones. Nice to see more people keeping platies and danios.

Once you add CO2, you may find that bio-wheels may cause excessive loss; you might want to remove it at that time.
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plant on the far left is terrestrial, it will die in the tank very soon.
Ok, so take the sword out? Can I transfer that to my 55 tank in the family room?

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DONT ADD AN AIRSTONE! plants need CO2 to grow, adding O2 will drive away any CO2 thats in the water. You should make a simple DIY Co2 setup, asap.
Ok, so don't add an airstone? Or take the bubble curtain out that is in there now?
I'm planning on adding CO2 once I empty the 2 liter bottle I have now. I have the tubing and the ingredients for it, but I'm not exactly sure what to make "in the tank" to disperse the CO2. I read somewhere that someone puts it in their filter intake? I'm a little confused about where exactly?


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Looks nice and clean otherwise. I would take out the peat moss, and add laterite asap too.
Taking the peat out would mean taking the sand and gravel out as well. If I do that, I might as well empty the entire tank and start over, yes?

I need a good company to purchase bulk latarite. Petsmart sells it in 10lb. boxes, and that's not enough to cover the bottom. Any suggestions?



And yes, I filled it up!!!
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Yeah man,
You are going to want to get rid of the bubble thingy entirely. The idea is to reduce your surface agitation as much as possible. Surface agitation allows CO2 to escape. We want to keep CO2 in the tank as long as possible. This is the reason that removing your bio wheel was suggested as well.
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plant on the far left is terrestrial, it will die in the tank very soon.
Here is a listing of plants that may do well for a very short time but will eventually die in a planted tank: http://www.plantgeek.net/plantguide_...=2&filter_by=1
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I wouldn’t rush to yank that bio wheel until the tank is FULLY cycled and stable (at least a month or two). Then, when and if you do pull the wheel, watch your nitrite and nitrate levels closely for several days and be ready to do a water change. If you’re going to use a 2 liter bottle to inject CO2 into a tank this small I STRONGLY encourage you to rig up a simple bubble counter and regulate the flow while carefully monitoring your pH (you can inject into the uptake tube of your filter and the bubbles will get chopped by the impeller and stick to your filter media, where they’ll dissolve.) Depending on your tap water hardness (and net softening effect of the peat) you may need to harden your water to mitigate wee hour pH crashes, but since you’re in Arkansas I doubt that will be an issue. (Any Arkansans out there care to chime in on local water hardness?) With as many fish as you’re stocking, you might want to reconsider injecting CO2 altogether and just let the fish provide CO2 for the plants. Granted, this won’t yield super fast plant growth, but you’ll have less to worry about in the long run. You appear to have plenty of light, so that shouldn’t be a limiting factor for your plants. Good luck and post another picture in a few months.
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Ok, so take the sword out? Can I transfer that to my 55 tank in the family room?



Ok, so don't add an airstone? Or take the bubble curtain out that is in there now?
I'm planning on adding CO2 once I empty the 2 liter bottle I have now. I have the tubing and the ingredients for it, but I'm not exactly sure what to make "in the tank" to disperse the CO2. I read somewhere that someone puts it in their filter intake? I'm a little confused about where exactly?



Taking the peat out would mean taking the sand and gravel out as well. If I do that, I might as well empty the entire tank and start over, yes?

I need a good company to purchase bulk latarite. Petsmart sells it in 10lb. boxes, and that's not enough to cover the bottom. Any suggestions?



And yes, I filled it up!!!
you dont need 10 lbs of laterite! Buy aquariumpharm's 55 oz. stuff, that will be more than enough. mix it in with the gravel. Running the CO2 line into the filter only works with canister filters. You can either get the Hagen CO2 ladder, or build a small reactor yourself. The plant is terrestrial, which means it grows on land. It wont grow in your 55 gallon either.
Good luck with the tank.

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Running the CO2 line into the filter only works with canister filters.
Lots of people with small run their Co2 into their HOB intake, including me. This method keeps my CO2 at ~30ppm. Granted i need higher bubble rates to achieve this, but it saves on having another piece of equipment in the tank

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Here is another HOB CO2 thread. Apparently Wasserpest has used this method before.
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5045
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The plant is terrestrial, which means it grows on land. It wont grow in your 55 gallon either.
Good luck with the tank.
Why would a fish store sell a plant that grows on land??
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Why would a fish store sell a plant that grows on land??
Because they can.

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Ok, the bubble curtain has been turned off and taken out. Last night I drilled a hole in my 2 liter bottle cap, and siliconed the hole after I put the airline tubing through.

A little help. For those who mix their own CO2 recipe, with a ten gallon tank should I cut down the amount I put in the 2 liter bottle?
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Honestly, for a smaller tank that isn't very heavily planted, you could almost go with a 1-liter or a 20 oz bottle instead. Using a 2-liter bottle, I would probably add less yeast initially to keep the CO2 flow slower and more even. I use a half teaspoon in my 2-liter bottles and they bubble like crazy for about a month and then stop abruptly. I assume it is either the sugar is used up or the alcohol levels kill the culture at that point.
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