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What should I name this scape? Looking for inputs!! Was calling it Paradise Regained

I took down my old scape and am rescaping, Calling it Paradise A New Beginning.

For much of the time the last scape was up, I had algae trouble. I finally figured out what was wrong. The solutions that I was using for NPK were super concentrated. I had not taken into account the molar weights while making the ferts and had actually heated the solution to dissolve the ferts. For eg: KNo3 - I dissolved about 500gms in 3 liters of water. I couldnt figure out what had happened as the APC tool didnot have a warning. I had tried a few times to get chuck gad's calculator however the links that I tried were broken. I finally got chuck gad's calculator and just wanted to check if I was dozing right when it promptly gave me a warning and I figured out what had gone wrong.

About 6 months I spent trying to battle GDA with lights outs and finally stopped fertilizing. I not only had GDA but BBA also. I lost all of my carpet and much of my plants and with lights out and no ferts most of the GDA died out but I could not get the bottom half of the tank rid of GDA. Finally went and got my self the cleaning crew - two bristle nose plecos. What I could not do with lights out and no ferts for 3 odd months - the plecos did in a couple of days. The algae was gone - like magic in two days.
I went about cleaning the tank out of the dead plants and I had lost all of the carpet. Glossos are demanding and due to BBA and lights out could not survive add to that I was not dosing. I soon realized that a good portion of the substrate was filled with debry and dying plant. I vacumed over 4 weeks and realized that there was too much debry and the moment I touched the substarte, the debry was in the water column and setting all over the leaves of the Corymbosa and the other plants. It was particulate and I could not get it off the leaves as it formed a thick layer and stuck to the leaves.
The tank was a year old, the substrate was incredibly dirtly and not much of help - aquaclay is inert. I was thinking of rescape and well it would be best if I cleaned out the substrate before re-scaping. If I was taking the tank apart, then why not new substarte and why not pack it with nturients and go for a complete system.
I also had to close out the stand to keep the ferts and other aquarium products. I also had he CO2 cylinder outside and wanted it to be hidden..
So there were two things I had to do, cover the stand and fix the substrate so that I didnt have to provide all the nutrients for the plants in the water coulumn.
From the 1 year of reading and being in differnt forums, I knew I wanted to use a combination a nutrinet rich substrate and something that faciliated the absorption and release of nutrients. I finally narrowed in on JBL aquabasis plus which is basically peat with macros and Aqusoil Amazonia from ADA which is one of the most nutrient rich substrates and was available more easily to me. The only draw back is that for atleast the first two years I have to use ADA ferts as it complements the substrate. I am told that I should not have much problems with algae this time and I hope so.

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The New Beginning






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Update 27/6

Its been a couple of weeks since set the tank up. I everything I need for the tank in last week.

Here are the tank details:

Flora:

1. Hemianthus Callitrichodes
2. Hygrophila Corymbosa Stricta
3. Cobomba - Green and Red
4. Ludwigia Inclinata
5. Rotala Macranda
6. Rotala Wallichi
7. Anubias Nana
8. Christmas Moss

Fauna

1. 4 Angel Fish
2. 10 Rummy Nose Tetras
3. 10 Serphae Tetras
4. 11 Lemon Tetras
5. 5 Black Neons Tetras
6. 10 Neon Tetras (Expected)
7. 2 Bristle Nose Plecos

Tank - 43G; 2.5"*1.5"*1.5"
Ehiem 2215
Aquasonic - T5 - 54*4 - 4FT
Ferts - Brighty K, Green Brighty Step1; Special Lights
CO2 - Canister - 2bps

The tank has been cycling for two weeks and these are the readings as of today

PH - 6.6
Amonia - 0ppm
Nitrate - 15 ppm
Nitrite - 0ppm

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Battle against Hair Algae

It must be either sulphur or additional K that was going into the tank. It started on the drift wood. It spread like wild fire, soon it was all over the plants and the tanks. It covered the scape, it was on the substrate, it was every where. It was brown and not pleasant. It was brown hair algae. It covered the leaves of the HC, the corymbosa was affected, it was on the drift wood, the moss.... something had to be done...

Sunday 8:30 AM -The H2O2 was in place. The plan was to nuke em. It was a 20% solution, had to bring it down to 10% so that the plants were not effected. The tank has been cycling and I had only the malaysian trumpets about 10 of them and the bristle nose in there..

9:30 AM - Evacuated the fish and snail population from the tank. Did general clean up. The HM in the tank was not doing well and most of it had melted, they were covered with algae. The corymbosa had a lot of dying shoots in there. Cleaned out the debry.

10:30 AM - It started in wave, focused on the right handside of the tank to start with and slowly moved to the left. Concentrated on the HC and the substrate in front. Sprayed H2O2, wave after wave. The substrate started bubling, the hc started bubling.. soon there were bubbles all over. It went on for three hours, till the whole tank was covered.

It was about 1:00 in the afternoon, the bubles had settled down. Took the water down by about a third. Looked at the tank again. There were some spots that were brown and hadn't turned white. The onslaught continued. Finally when all the brown was white and the tank had stopped fizzing or atleast bottomed out, filled in water. What do you know, it started fizzing again. It was a sight to watch. I have some photos will post it later. The tank bubbled and fizzed over night releasing the oxygen bubles that had fromed on the substrate and all over.

We are still cleaning out the tank. I reintroduced all the inhabitants into the tank after a day, however the Amano shrimps havent touched or cleaned the algae and the plecos were not interested to start with. So it is back to the tooth brush and manual cleaning.

Well so much for ADA ferts. I was told that if I followed the instructions on the dosing chart, I should not have algae.

Hmm... Well, I have changed the dosing as of now.

It was 8ml of brighty K after a water change, I have reduced this to 5 and also the daily dosing of 3 ml has been brought down to 3ml every two days.

Will post what ever pics I have of the battle soon.

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Here are some pics of the algae fizzing away, when sprayed with H2O2. The impact on plants have been minimal, though I still dont know how to get the dead algae off the HC. I tried the toothbrush, but the HC is getting disloged and they have just started rooting. I dont want to uproot them and want to let them grow. That was the main intention of spraying the H2O2.

Any ideas on how to clean up?





















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That wood is fantastic!

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Thanks Lil' Swimz$.

Picked it up at the LFS. Though I dont know what wood it is. Have to ask. I saw it liked it and picked it up.

There were two pieces of wood that I put in initially. The second one that is there in the initial pics is more intricate and looks like root system of a tree. I felt that it was a bit over crowded and with the fishload that I have, wanted to create more free space for the fish to swim and therefore took it out. Will post pics of it over the weekend. I plan to get a smaller tank done with that wood in it, but thats for later.

Will post pics of the tank over the weekend. Things have progressed well and the tank is shaping up. Pics over the weekend.

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PIC UPDATE 15 Jul-11

Its been a week since I dosed H2O2. The tank has cleared up and there is a lot of improvement. The fish are back in the tank except for the Angels, they are still in the temp tank.

THe HC is not particularly doing well. Mostly becuse the fish in the tank keep on uprooting it. They like playing with it. I also hear that Seachem Flourish Excel is good for HC during initial days. Have ordered it, will take time coming.

I had the T5s on earlier and through out there was no signs of photosynthesis. I got the T5s replaced with PLLs 54W*2. Didnot help either, no photosynthesis. I replaced these with the hood that was on the tank till now, Photosynthesis and real good amounts of it!!!

The t5s were 12K Kelvin and 6.5K Kelvin combination. Dont think the 12K bulbs were doing any good. 12K might not have provided good amount PUR for the plants,the intensity being too high.

The 54*2 was about 2.5 watts per gallon and I have best results with about 4 watts per gallon.

I have a tough task on convicing the LFS to take back the PLL which was a replacement for the T5 HO and give me 4*39 PLLs. I think he is going to lose it when I ask for the replacement.

Pic Update:

Front shot


Cobomba





Alteranthera: Was covered with Algae. Now that the algae is gone, looks in much better condition.



Blyxa Japonica: New addtiion to the tank



Macranda: I believe this is plant that is really doing well in the tank. Has grown well. I am waiting for it grow some more so that I can trim and replant.


Corymbosa - Doing very well, after the initial hick up where I had some melt and it took time to root.

Red Cobomba: This was the plant that was most affected by the H2O2 treatment. I had a bit of die off after the treatment. Looks like it got singed during the treatment.



Christmas Moss is doing well: Initially it was all darkbrown. I fitted fans on the aquarium to bring the temprature down to 28 degree C and it worked, it is green now but growth is extremely slow. Thinking on taking the green threads off and sticking it with glue. I have heard it can be done but really dont want to introduce chemicals in the tank which might be disastrous. Anybody knows if it can be done? If you have seen instructions please provide the link.







Coffeefolia




Will soon post pics of the fishes. They dont stay still long enough for me to get a decent shot of them.

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Its been a month since I posted. A lot has transpired since then. I introduced about 16 cardinals into the tank and they survived for a day. They came infected and spread the infection in the tank also. It was a disaster. The fish count has changed. I have lost some of my older fishes due to the infections. The current count of fishes in the tank is as follows

8 Serphae tetras - lost 2
7 Rummynose - Lost 3
8 Lemons - Lost 1 to infection and two jumped out
4 Black Neons - lost 1
2 Plecos - Lost None
1 Cardinal - Lost 15
1 Neon Rainbow - Lost None


As for the plants and the tank in general it has come quite a bit even after the upset. The plants have grown in and is much more denser. I have had a difficult time with the HC. My fishes dont let it root and keep pulling them out. I am not sure if it is the plecos moving around or if it is the other fishes. Plus the HC has been growing slowly. I got hold of some more which were available for an affordable rate and planted them. Waiting to see how the new ones do.

I got a Java fern however that is also growing very slowly. If you know something that speeds up the growth of Java Fern or HC please let me know.

I have to move at the end of the month and therefore am looking for ways make sure that I dont have rip the tank apart to move it. Got some ideas from the plant forum and think I know what to do.

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Beautiful tank, I think the plecos are causing your HC problem. HC doesn't appear to grow fast because it is so small. The uprooting isn't halping either. Jave Fern is slow growing period IME. From the pearling on the plants I think you have enough CO2 and ferts for great growth so the fern is growing as fast as it will.


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Java fern is really slow growing so you may want to rethink that if you want different results. I really like JF's though, tough as heck.

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The tank has come along well. Most of the plants have grown well. I moved to a new place and moving the tank was one of the things that I worried about but a little help from the plant forum and based on advise there was nothing to worry.

I am still having difficulty growing the HC. The fishes wont leave it alone. I am also wondering if they are getting nutrients in the right amount. Move the Java fern in front to give it a bit more light and I can see new growth.

Anyways here are some pics. There was a bit of spot algae on the glass when I took these snaps. This is before the recent trim. I am yet to take pics after the trim. Will post some more pics next week.






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Tank looks fantastic, I think your fish like the HC too much for you to have any luck with it unfortunately.


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Beautiful tank! I love all the different colors of plants and fish.
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WOW! That is a beautiful tank. Bright and vibrant colors mixed in the green. The branch wood is a nice touch.
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Thanks - 2in10, mjbubbles, oldbonehead.

Here is a side view of the tank.


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