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Newly Planted African Cichlid Tank

Here it is. Low light with Java Fern, Moss, Anubias Barteri, Crypt. Wendtii, and Valis. Americana.





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Those ferns look familiar ;-)

If you need any more let me know... I have more almost ready to split :-)


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Aulonochromis,
great looking setup! I have a 55 gallon mbuna that i've always wanted to plant, but for obvious reasons haven't gotten around to trying it (except a few extra java ferns that are wilting away in the salty depths at the moment) what are your water params? my GH and KH are through the roof in that tank, and I fear it might be more than the plants could handle... i wish i still had the link to the recipe for malawi water composition, but I'm pretty much using that to the t(as far as K,Na,Ca,Mg are concerned)... do you mind sharing your pH, gh kh, and temp?

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p.s. who's the blue fella with the frontosa lookin' noggin?

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Those ferns look familiar ;-)

If you need any more let me know... I have more almost ready to split :-)
Hey thanks! Sure, I could use some more, let me know when they are ready.


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Aulonochromis,
great looking setup! I have a 55 gallon mbuna that i've always wanted to plant, but for obvious reasons haven't gotten around to trying it (except a few extra java ferns that are wilting away in the salty depths at the moment) what are your water params? my GH and KH are through the roof in that tank, and I fear it might be more than the plants could handle... i wish i still had the link to the recipe for malawi water composition, but I'm pretty much using that to the t(as far as K,Na,Ca,Mg are concerned)... do you mind sharing your pH, gh kh, and temp?

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p.s. who's the blue fella with the frontosa lookin' noggin?
Thanks. The guy with the blue noggin is a Cyrotocara Moorii or Malawi Blue Dolphin. The hump gets even bigger with age. He's a very cool fish, has alot of personality.

My water parameters are:

Temp-76*F (I've found a lower temp slightly lowers aggression)
GH-5
KH is around 12 I think.
PH is 7.6

Many people would think my water is too soft, but according to what I have read by people who have actually tested Malawi's parameters, Malawi is not that hard. Ph is anywhere from 7.6 to 8.2 in Malawi. It has a high KH, but the Gh is relatively soft. Also, there is very little NaCL in Malawi (but there is alot in Tanganiyaka).

I don't add any buffers other than the crushed coral in my filter, and a little bit of Tufa rock. I used to add sea salt, epsom salt, and baking soda, but I found that it doesn't really matter what I add to the water, as long as it is changed frequently (50% weekly), the fish eat like pigs and spawn like crazy.

I have tried plants with these guys before, when they were juvies, but they ripped them apart. They tore Anubias apart like nothing. I even put a piece of emersed Philodendron vine in there and they bit the leaves.

I added one java fern about a month ago on a whim, and to my amazement they didn't touch it, so I added other plants and they've been fine. I think perhaps the reason is because they are older that they aren't as curious.
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hmm... high kh but relatively low gh, yet low sodium? that will be a feat to accomplish... dissolving the carbonate part of sodium bicarbonate or calcium carbonate without either of the metals... sounds like a job for POTASSIUM BICARBONATE!!! YAY! j/k... seriously though, thanks for the info... i'll try leaving my kh up and bringing my gh down for a while... if the fish seem happy, i'll start looking for anubias and more ferns
i've always been a fan of the mooris, and forgot all about the blue dolphin... i might have to hunt down a couple (i hope i don't get lynched for mixing lakes). they're tangs, right? is there anything interesting in victoria that isn't huge?

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You got that Cyrotocara Moorii from Jim didn't you... I swear I've seen that fish before


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QUOTE=Oqsy]hmm... high kh but relatively low gh, yet low sodium? that will be a feat to accomplish... dissolving the carbonate part of sodium bicarbonate or calcium carbonate without either of the metals... sounds like a job for POTASSIUM BICARBONATE!!! YAY! j/k... seriously though, thanks for the info... i'll try leaving my kh up and bringing my gh down for a while... if the fish seem happy, i'll start looking for anubias and more ferns
i've always been a fan of the mooris, and forgot all about the blue dolphin... i might have to hunt down a couple (i hope i don't get lynched for mixing lakes). they're tangs, right? is there anything interesting in victoria that isn't huge?

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C. Moorii's are Malawis. Tropheus Moorii is a Tang. NaCL doesn't affect Gh AFAIK, but Epsom salt does. There are many Victorian fish that don't get too big, but I don't know much about them.


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Yes I did, but he was only about 2" at the time. I only paid $8.99 for him as a juvie.
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Beautiful fish and nice tank! Very clean and suspiciously aglae-free. Do you have a janitorial crew (Plecos??) or do you spend much time keeping the tank scrubbed clean?

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i knew that Na doesn't raise GH... I was referring to another part of your post on malawi composition where you say that it has a low sodium content... without calcium bicarbonate (raises gh & kh) or sodium bicarbonate (raises sodium levels), it would be tough to get to a high kh unless you used an alternative bicarbonate source, like potassium bicarbonate... it wasn't a very important point I was trying to make, just a thought.

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Beautiful fish and nice tank! Very clean and suspiciously aglae-free. Do you have a janitorial crew (Plecos??) or do you spend much time keeping the tank scrubbed clean?
No cleaning crew. I bought an SAE, but unfortunately he became lunch.


The tank has only been planted for about a month. Prior to adding plants I dosed with an algaecide to eradicate all algae. I figured the plants would be at a disadvantage competing against established algae. I do get some brown algae, mostly on the anubias. I just lightly rub it off with my finger at every water change. I just noticed a little bit of green algae forming on the glass yesterday. I hope I can make the plants out compete it. I really need some more Vals, as they seem to be very fast growers.
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