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Dutch Aquascaping ~ MsCichlids 120gal



Please excuse the reflections from the other tanks and windows in my fishroom.


My intention is to eventually attempt a Dutch aquascape. I've been buying plants from TPT. Thank you! I think I now have too many... For now, the plan is to try to be successful at growing plants to see how they grow and which species would be best suited for my D-scape.

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Tank - 60" x 18" x 25"
Original Aquasoil - 2yrs old
Eheim 2217 and Marineland 360
C02 with reactor -1bps
AH T5's 10,000k 8 x 40 watts 3" above tank - 8hrs ( 22" to substrate)
pH 7.2, conductivity 210, temp 80F
No fauna except MTS and assassins

Will be purchasing dry ferts for EI dosing, but for right now I'm using up the Seachem samples I have. Flourish and Flourish Iron

Planned dosing regime: (will double it for 120 to start)
50% H20 change-weekly
3/4 Tsp-KN03 3x a week
3/16 Tsp-KH2P04 3x a week
1 Tsp-GH booster once a week
15ml 3/16Tsp-Trace 3x a week
Optional
4-8ml-Fe/Iron 3x a week

Questions:
Should I get root tabs for the substrate since it's old?
Should I adjust the lighting to a lower level since wpg is now old school?
Should I put in more plants?

All help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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I wish I could help you on the lighting, but alas, I am ignorant on that subject. However, I would just stick with the plants you have for now and let them grow for a while. See which ones you like and don't, some of those are quick growers and if you add more, you'll just have a one or two stems to make room for it all. Root tabs can never hurt the situation, but can always help. I personally would add them.

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Thanks sewingalot.
I'll update when there is progress.
Hopefully, Hoppy will chime in about the lighting.
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Francine,

The tank looks great! 6' tanks are great for Dutch/Collectoritis scapes.

I think you are definitely in the high light category if all 8 of those bulbs are T5HO. You do have pressurized CO2 and are dosing ferts, but IME everything is going to have to be dialed in almost perfectly to avoid algae. I would start with 6 of those bulbs on with an 8 hour photoperiod at their current height. Alternatively, you can raise the lights up a foot or three and then run all 8 bulbs. Do you have a drop checker? In a tank this long it's easy to get CO2 dead spots which definitely contributes to algae growth. Also, you might have to crank your CO2 up a bit as 1bps seems low IMO.

Since your substrate is older I would definitely get some substrate fertilizers in there. Your plants will thank you.

I'm all for more plants, but you should probably wait, as suggested by Sewingalot.


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Thanks tuffgong. I'll reduce the light and crank up the C02. Do you think more than one drop checker would be an efficient way to make sure the C02 coverage is on par?
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Yes, I do. Since the tank is so long multiple drop checkers isn't a bad idea. I wouldn't say it's required, but it will help you get an accurate idea of how much CO2 is really dissolved in your water. If you only use one drop checker I would place it on the opposite end of the tank from where the reactor water enters the tank.


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Where's a good place to order decently priced DC's?
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Mordalphus has some good ones that include everything you need in the Powerseller section: https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sp...r-awesome.html


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Time to trim and move some of the plants around.

What do you think?

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A month has been good to the tank. Looks like a jungle! Better break out your machete

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Wow that's awesome! Your plants grew so much! Now you're making me wish for a large tank like yours, except I'm a poor grad student in a small apartment, on the second floor...
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Looks really good. I like the jungle look!


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Wow! Your tank looks awesome, Francine! Any fish in there?

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Thanks! No fish yet. My first purchase will be ottos. The tank gets a lot of glass algae. I raised the lights, so I'll see if that makes a difference.

The C02 is cranked up and I want to test the oxygen levels before I put fish in there. I bought a drop checker, but the plan is to secure a magnet to the suction cup so that it won't fall off eventually.
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The tank was neglected for about a week and a half because my club was hosting a major convention. So now I'm in the process of trimming and removing excess plants. In the picture you will see that I've only gotten to half the tank. Planted tanks are a lot of work.

Still no fish. I want to crank up the C02, but the inline diffuser empties when I do. I don't know how to get around that. Any ideas? Anyone?

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