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post #61 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-19-2020, 10:20 AM
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When you use the frogbit how long do you use it for and how do you know it has done its job?
When I used Frogbit, I use it until all the plants are just bursting with color, growing rapidly and algae is minimal. I also weed out the amount of Frogbit per week (this stuff really grows hence it's ability to be a nutrient sponge) during water changes.

This is something that has worked for me and helped with my Green Water issue when starting up Office Space II.

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I found that the best animal to remove algae from rocks is nerite snails. They literally turned my slightly green tinged minilandsape rock pretty much free of all algae. The only negative is that they do lay their eggs on it which is a bit hard to scrub off..but its not impossible to remove it from the glass, but removing it from rocks is a bit harder.
I saw one YouTube video where the presenter was showing his cleaning supplies cart. One thing that he had was an electric toothbrush. They are waterproof, battery operated and seem to be perfect for cleaning rocks...
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I added some more monte carlo and moved some buce and anubias around. The Vallisneria gigantea is getting big fast.

I started dosing UNS Plant Food and I can see a huge difference. Less algae and a lot of plant growth.

I was thinking about adding some Eleocharis vivipara what doe you guys think? Any suggestions? I hope the monte in the front left will start growing over the rock so it looks more natural. I think I pushed it back while I was scrubbing that rock. Kind of looks like a "U" now.
This tank is nearly exactly what I am building: 25 gallon Landen 60cm rimless with a Twinstar light and glass pipes. Oase Biomaster Thermo and CO2. Fluval Stratum with a sand cover.

I already broke one Jardli glass pipe and I have not even turned the filter on yet! It just tapped lightly against the tank glass.

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Thanks @Crazygar. I am going to get some this week or next and try it out.
@mourip I have seen that too. I am actually using a brass wire brush. It works amazing.

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This tank is nearly exactly what I am building: 25 gallon Landen 60cm rimless with a Twinstar light and glass pipes. Oase Biomaster Thermo and CO2. Fluval Stratum with a sand cover.

I already broke one Jardli glass pipe and I have not even turned the filter on yet! It just tapped lightly against the tank glass.

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I will have to get some pictures but what I did with the lily pipes is I cut a piece of clear tubbing maybe a half an inch long and then cut one side so I was able to slip it around the lily pipe where it touches or could hit the rim of the tank. I will get some pics.

I am excited to see your tank. Do you have a thread?
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@Crazygar here is a better picture of the algae I am starting to grow. Also will water lettuce work the same as frotbit? What is the difference?

@mourip you can see the cut tubing on the pipe in the picture.
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@Crazygar here is a better picture of the algae I am starting to grow. Also will water lettuce work the same as frotbit? What is the difference?

@mourip you can see the cut tubing on the pipe in the picture.
Nice idea. I was manipulating my Jardli "violet" glass inflow pipe and just tapped it against he tank wall. It is still intact but has a nasty crack.

I bought a replacement but if I break another I will go to stainless!

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Thanks @Crazygar. I am going to get some this week or next and try it out.
@mourip I have seen that too. I am actually using a brass wire brush. It works amazing.

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I will have to get some pictures but what I did with the lily pipes is I cut a piece of clear tubbing maybe a half an inch long and then cut one side so I was able to slip it around the lily pipe where it touches or could hit the rim of the tank. I will get some pics.

I am excited to see your tank. Do you have a thread?
It is here.

Currently I am obsessing over the hardscape but I fired up the Oase filter today. Baby steps...
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I subscribed to your thread. Do you have pics of your hardscape up yet?
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The new tank is looking good! What size lily pipes are you using? 13 or 17mm? I am setting up a UNS 60U and would like to use a biomaster filter, but I am not sure if the larger 17mm pipes that requires would look disproportionately large in a 60cm tank. Sadly, there is nowhere close that I can see both sizes in person.
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Mine are 17mm.
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They don't look too big at all in that tank. Thanks, I appreciate it!
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Ya they don’t look bad at all and you’re welcome.
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Water Lettuce can grow massive, one plant will cover your entire tank. Pistia can grow to 16" wide.

Frogbit or Limnobium laevigatum, grows much smaller and what I use for Nutrient sinks until things get balanced. Do not let it take it over. Thin it out to ensure it does not take over.

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How are the tetras doing with the shrimp? that species I've had issues with being aggressive so ended up taking them out.

I agree with the whole nerites walking out of a rimless tank, I've had that happen as well

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This tank is nearly exactly what I am building: 25 gallon Landen 60cm rimless with a Twinstar light and glass pipes. Oase Biomaster Thermo and CO2. Fluval Stratum with a sand cover.

I already broke one Jardli glass pipe and I have not even turned the filter on yet! It just tapped lightly against the tank glass.

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