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Back to Basics (Shrimp are Here)

This is a redo of my 33 gallon aquarium.

Previously attempted dutch but felt I lacked the basic skills to maintain it.
My maintenance, trimming and layout skills, as well as desire to use too many plants made this... a challenge.

I am going back to my roots (well my roots are iwagumi but I tire) and will practice basic plant maintenance.
I will also try a different dosing style.. Maybe more ADA, Tropica, Dennis Wong.

And finally my main goal for the tank?
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Rotala Rotundifolia.
So simple, yet I cannot grow it.
Challenge accepted.

Anyway, on to the pics!
Some of the first shots are trial and error - one of the layouts I show definitely has superior depth, but I had no room for some of the plants I wish to grow.





















and a video from the other day before I added the ember tetras.
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Here is my Flora and Fauna either present or intended
Fauna:
12 Ember Tetras
4 Otocinclus Catfish
12 Celestial Pearl Danios (on order)
20 Bloody Mary Shrimp (on order)
2 Scarlet Badis? (not decided yet)

Flora
Trident Java Fern
Baby Leaf Bolbitis
Hygrophila Pinnatifida
Hygrophila Araguaya Sharp Leaf
Cryptocoryne spiralis red
Anubias Nana Petite
Rotala Rotundifolia Red
Baby Tears/Pearl Weed (Micranthemum Micranthemoides, Hemianthus Micranthemoides, I really dont know the difference if there is one, but I ordered Micranthemum Micranthemoides)
Mini Pellia
Bucephelandra Brownie Ghost
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Subscribed! Looks great so far,

I am also one of the ones who cannot grow R. rotundifolia, well not in high tech, but I can grow it with ease low tech
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Here is my Flora and Fauna either present or intended
Fauna:
12 Ember Tetras
4 Otocinclus Catfish
12 Celestial Pearl Danios (on order)
20 Bloody Mary Shrimp (on order)
2 Scarlet Badis? (not decided yet)

Flora
Trident Java Fern
Baby Leaf Bolbitis
Hygrophila Pinnatifida
Hygrophila Araguaya Sharp Leaf
Cryptocoryne spiralis red
Anubias Nana Petite
Rotala Rotundifolia Red
Baby Tears/Pearl Weed (Micranthemum Micranthemoides, Hemianthus Micranthemoides, I really dont know the difference if there is one, but I ordered Micranthemum Micranthemoides)
Mini Pellia
Nice list! I have many of those in my tanks. Would the Scarlet Badis be a risk to your shrimp?

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I'll be following along on this one. I feel there is a lot I can learn here!
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Subscribed! Looks great so far,

I am also one of the ones who cannot grow R. rotundifolia, well not in high tech, but I can grow it with ease low tech
Thank you!
I have only ever had luck during the early stages of the aquarium before I got into heavy EI dosing..
My plan is to keep this tank on more of a subsistence diet and not overload everything.
My primary hunch is that the heavy dosing reveals CO2 limitations in Rotala. I'd rather have an abundance of co2 and have growth limited somewhere else!
We shall see though!

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Nice list! I have many of those in my tanks. Would the Scarlet Badis be a risk to your shrimp?

Cheers
I think so.. Im undecided - I wanted to add some Corydoras but dont want to bulldoze the shrimp.
I don't want just the two species though.. Maybe I'll end up with 2 SAE instead but I'd like something that stands out a little.

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I'll be following along on this one. I feel there is a lot I can learn here!
Thanks I feel the same way.
Hopefully I can limit the complexity of the tank and get comfortable with the cleaning/trimming/maintenance process without all the cognitive load of trying to manage insane growth rates of 10+ stem plant varieties!


p.p.s I also have Bucephelandra Brownie Ghost on one of the pieces of wood, forgot to mention it in the flora list.


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Added the Anubias Petite.
Some more pics!
pH down to about 6.3 from 7.6 at end of day.










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Looks good man! Glad to see you back at it
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This looks amazing! My rotala is starting to stunt so I share your frustration. Good luck!!
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This looks amazing! My rotala is starting to stunt so I share your frustration. Good luck!!
I've read through hundreds of pages on here and Barr Report regarding Rotala Stunting and gosh I don't think anything has stood out or been shown to really solve the issue.
I bought the 24 aquarist ferts from Dennis Wong's website and I will give it a go as he never seems to have any issues.
But thats assuming the fertilizer is the issue!
He also uses a markedly different substrate system from me and who knows what effect all that clay etc might have.
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So I noticed my water is stained yellow a little - I've missed this!
Debating boiling some oak leaves and making a tannin tea I can add in my water changes.
Might make the Embers and CPD's color up a bit more.

Speaking of CPD's, they're arriving tomorrow at 10:30 AM via next day air.

I'm going to do a 10 gallon water change tonight which equates to about 1/3 and then make my first dose of ferts.
I'm so paranoid regarding the Rotala though. I've heard people say not to dose within 24 hours of using Prime...


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So I noticed my water is stained yellow a little - I've missed this!
Debating boiling some oak leaves and making a tannin tea I can add in my water changes.
Might make the Embers and CPD's color up a bit more.
What I used to do with my Blackwater when I wanted it stained more was make some rooibos tea and pour it in after it cools. Works fantastic, and is clean, easy, and available all over.
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What I used to do with my Blackwater when I wanted it stained more was make some rooibos tea and pour it in after it cools. Works fantastic, and is clean, easy, and available all over.
Interesting - I am interested in the humates and tannins that blackwater has, but dont necessarily want it too dark.
I'll have to experiment with that!

Edit: quick search online led me to some "healthy" websites that said its a good source of copper!
Hmmmmmmm not sure I want copper in my tank.


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Nice scape! any interest in submitting to an aquascaping competition this year?

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Nice scape! any interest in submitting to an aquascaping competition this year?
Sounds great! I wonder If I could even place in the top 1000 though...


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