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60P with rock, wood and plants

As I am still slowly building the bigger tank, I decided to upgrade my 45cm tank to a 60cm one.
I did not want to spent money on ADA finish and a sticker, I asked a local shop to make a 60P tank which turned out great for 1/2 of the price.

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Bump: After that i started on the stand. I wanted to use solid wood, but in Dubai such a panels are not readily available so went with plywood and veneer instead.
Then things got a little out of control.

I took down my previous tank and needed to get the plants in the 60cm tank.
Forgot to take pictures during the process except for when the soil went in...
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I have put the Rotala Macandra in the left aft corner, but that is where the filter intake is.
The leaves of the Macandra are blocking the inlet all the time.
I also feel that the leaves of this Rotala are too big for this size of tank and I am probably going to replace it by another plant.
Any suggestions?

The front is planted with Eleocharis Parvula.
Hygrophila Pinnatifida is added on the rock and wood branch.
Front right has Alternanthera Reineckii Mini to add a touch of red.
Cryptocoryne Undulatus Red was added in the middle and left.
The back right has Rotala Wallichii in the corner, with Rotala H'ra left of it in the back and some Didiplis Diandra right of the rightside rock.
In the middle aft I have added Myriophyllum Guyana with next to it the red/orange Rotala Macandra.

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Here is an updated picture of the tank.






I added some glowlight danios and blue tetras.














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That's coming along very nicely! Love the colors and very nice fish pics. Should look amazing once the stemmies all fill in.
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The tank is humming along for now.
Since starting, I did a 50% water change on each Wednesday and Saturday till now.
We are about 2 weeks in.

I have replaced the Rotala Macandra by a Ludwigia Repens in the left back corner. Some of the Rotala was placed back in other areas to get some more contrast with the rest of the greens.
The L Repens will outgrow the tank, but I would like to see what it does when it grows above water level. So some stems I will keep in check, other I will let grow.
I also added some Rotala H'Ra in the middle and fore, together with some Eriocaulum Cinereum in between the Eleocharis Pusilla carpet.
Last weekend I trimmed the Rotala Wallichii and added a spray bar to the outflow of the filter. That improved the flow a lot (was too strong) but it created problems with the CO2 distribution.
So yesterday evening during water change I removed the bar and modified the flow/CO2 again. We will see in the next days if it improves.

All plants seem to be growing with some algae here and there. Nothing to worry about and I believe that the CO2/flow issue is the biggest contributor to the algae. The Otos and snails do have something to eat now.

I noticed that the moss (Riccardia Chamedryfolia and Vesicularia Dubyana are showing some less green leaves, almost brown.
Is this normal?
I did not trim any of it, not during planting and not after.

Here some pictures.
The first one is from one day after setting up.
The rest is from yesterday with also some top-down shots during water change.

Bump: Oh, and I have some trouble with the fish... they seem to prefer not to be in the tank and jump.
Every day I come home scared to find another one on the floor.
I am left with 5 glowlight danios and 4 blue tetras.

I also have to say that the male killifish has been removing 3 tetras (the smallest ones). I was not aware that these fish were carnivores.

What would be a good addition that will not jump?
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Beautifully tank! I like your aquascaping style! I am getting closer to setting up my 90P.
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I am still continuing with the 2 water changes per week.
I trimmed the moss a little yesterday, changed the water, cleaned the filter, added some Tropica AIO ferts, counted the fish and adjusted the flow of the filter to have better CO2 distribution.

The drop checker was not coloring green before and was turning almost yellow after the adjustments.
I lowered the CO2 bps to about 2 in order to kill the fish today as I am not at home.

Some pictures
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Trimming Hygrophila Pinnatifida

What is he best wasy to keep these bushy and small?

Can the runners be cut and placed elsewhere?
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I've never had good luck keeping Hygrophila pinnatifida compact or bushy - even in ideal situations. Over time in ideal situations, they do start to look better, though. So I've usually just removed the largest leaves when they get too big.

Can definitely cut the runners and move them elsewhere. Also easy to cut them once they start growing up and have several nodes.
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Bump: Oh, and I have some trouble with the fish... they seem to prefer not to be in the tank and jump.
Every day I come home scared to find another one on the floor.
I am left with 5 glowlight danios and 4 blue tetras.

I also have to say that the male killifish has been removing 3 tetras (the smallest ones). I was not aware that these fish were carnivores.

What would be a good addition that will not jump?
Sounds like your fish may be jumping to escape the predatory killifish? You might consider rehoming the culprit.

And getting a cover so you don't keep losing your fish.
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Bump: Oh, and I have some trouble with the fish... they seem to prefer not to be in the tank and jump...
Is that the normal water height or is that for picture taking? You should have at least 1" difference between rim and water level. I haven't lost anything in 6 months on my setup. I have a school of black neons, amber tetras, otos and shrimp.
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The killifish is not bothering or even chasing any fish.
He mostly stays close to the bottom, between the plants to look for food.

I do keep the water level relatively high, not only for taking these pictures.
So there is little obstruction to get over the trim.

Would a thin acrylic sheet be good to use as cover? I could drill it to allow air exchange.

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This weekend was used for a water change and upgrade of the filter to an Oase Biomaster 250 + inline CO2 diffuser.
I see that my moss is not really happy so I lowered the light period to only 6 hour and might lower it more if there is no improvement.

I got some algae on the lower leave of the Althernantera Reineckii so I trimmed those. The new leave do not show any algae.

I got an order coming in for some Pseudogumil Gertrudae. I hope these will do fine in the tank.
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