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Just a guess, but I’m thinking in this design, it doesn’t matter too much, since the outputs are providing the current to as close to 100% of the tank as possible.


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YEP, everything gently in motion around whole tank and eventually gets swept over to canister input, maybe give it a little help with turkey baster 2-3 times a month. Nutrients distributed properly, oxygenated current lightly blowing across whole tanks substrate so it's bio-filter is purring like a well tuned engine. Plants at bottom just lightly wiggling in breeze with almost no debris settling on them anywhere in tank.

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ok. Could I just get 1 of those U shaped return pipes and use my cascade 200 HOB filter in place of that?

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Does this liset look good to you?

aquaeffects model 2 led light 93.95

Polar Aurora 4 stage 25 GPH canister filter 76.99

Segarty 6 in 1 aquascape tools set 29.99

Fairmount minerals pool filter sand 56.00(2 bags)

25' python water change hose 39.99

atlas 772 long sleeve gloves 11.68

2 in 1 water alarm 6.99

seachem paragaurd 13.50

sunny thick yoga mat 4.99

marina floating thermometer with suction cup 1.72

CNZ filter media pack 13.99

Aqueon pro series 300w heater 32.92

aquarium background 14.99

java fern bare root 12.00(x3)

aquatic arts java moss 25 square inch portion 20.92

ThePetStop U shaped filter outlet 8.59

3/4 inch water line 3 way splitter 18.13

Total= 465.76

Bump: It is WAY out of my ideal price range thanks to @DaveKS and his pointing out that I needed better flow. Any way to lower the price? I have the tank and the stand already so I can't get them off cragslist.

I am getting most of plants at wet spot as they are better deals, but some were better on amazon.

This is my plant list for wetspot.

Temple plant x2 $8.00
Brazilian pennywort x2 $8.00
Dwarf 4 leaf clover x3 pots $12.00
Anubias cofeefolia x1 $7.00
duckweed $1.00

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Does this liset look good to you?

aquaeffects model 2 led light 93.95

Polar Aurora 4 stage 25 GPH canister filter 76.99

Segarty 6 in 1 aquascape tools set 29.99

Fairmount minerals pool filter sand 56.00(2 bags)

25' python water change hose 39.99

atlas 772 long sleeve gloves 11.68

2 in 1 water alarm 6.99

seachem paragaurd 13.50

sunny thick yoga mat 4.99

marina floating thermometer with suction cup 1.72

CNZ filter media pack 13.99

Aqueon pro series 300w heater 32.92

aquarium background 14.99

java fern bare root 12.00(x3)

aquatic arts java moss 25 square inch portion 20.92

ThePetStop U shaped filter outlet 8.59

3/4 inch water line 3 way splitter 18.13

Total= 465.76

Bump: It is WAY out of my ideal price range thanks to @DaveKS and his pointing out that I needed better flow. Any way to lower the price? I have the tank and the stand already so I can't get them off cragslist.

I am getting most of plants at wet spot as they are better deals, but some were better on amazon.

This is my plant list for wetspot.

Temple plant x2 $8.00
Brazilian pennywort x2 $8.00
Dwarf 4 leaf clover x3 pots $12.00
Anubias cofeefolia x1 $7.00
duckweed $1.00

For filtration- just do what you can afford to begin and modify as needed/budget permits. The turnover rate of these two filters are perfectly fine for what your planning. Make sure that, with your python, you keep areas clean at substrate where you may get build-up of waste/debris, do weekly water changes, do not over-feed--- and it will be fine.



You could save a lot more on plants by getting them from members on this forum. Especially those that are willing to give you plants for free.
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Thank you. So you think DaveKS is right about the filter? If so, buying that stuff is not a problem. Thank you again.

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Thank you. So you think DaveKS is right about the filter? If so, buying that stuff is not a problem. Thank you again.
If you can afford it; sure, do it. Anytime you take measures to ensure no dead spots in aquarium where debris might accumulate is worthwhile.


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Perfect, Thank you so much everybody!!

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Could I dry start java moss? It would be on driftwood.

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Could I dry start java moss? It would be on driftwood.
You could, but it would be easier to tie it or glue it to the driftwood. After a month, cut the thread and you're good to go and you wouldn't be having to go from emersed to submerged.
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Thank you. I did some reading and I am going with the seachem flourish glue. I will also use it for my java fern and anubias.

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Thank you. I did some reading and I am going with the seachem flourish glue.
Crazy glue gel type CyanoAcrylate is the same and can be bought at dollar store. Just make sure its only CyanoAcrylate.
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Our dollar store does not carry stuff like that I don't think, and we never go there

Bump: So I am about to place the big order on amazon. Is there anything I was missing from the list in one of my earlier posts? Any reminders?

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Dude you need to just slow down.

Get canister, you don't even know what size hose canister comes with which you will need to know to buy proper sized extra plumbing parts. I've looked online and I can't find those specs.

Sand? Do you not have a ACE hardware around you where you can get HTH pool sand? Its almost half the price of what your ordering.

I would get those, mat and heater and go from there. Get those set up, running and start the fishless cycle routine. Your also going to probably need to do some shimming of stand etc, in most houses floor is far from level.

I also think your going to be disappointed with that lights intensity at substrate in 21" tall tank. its par at substrate will probably only be about 25, they list par as [email protected]" so at water column height yours will be slightly below that.
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Dude you need to just slow down.

Get canister, you don't even know what size hose canister comes with which you will need to know to buy proper sized extra plumbing parts. I've looked online and I can't find those specs.

Sand? Do you not have a ACE hardware around you where you can get HTH pool sand? Its almost half the price of what your ordering.

I would get those, mat and heater and go from there. Get those set up, running and start the fishless cycle routine. Your also going to probably need to do some shimming of stand etc, in most houses floor is far from level.

I also think your going to be disappointed with that lights intensity at substrate in 21" tall tank. its par at substrate will probably only be about 25, they list par as [email protected]" so at water column height yours will be slightly below that.
It says 3/4 inch hoses. I already shimmed the stand. I don't need to cycle as I have 11 neon tetras with a cascade 200 and the filter will go in there with the tetras when the time comes. Then when I need to quarantine the new fish after about 6 months, I can put the cascade back on the 10 gallon for quarantine. As for the sand, thank you so much. I checked the website and the price is cheaper than dirt.(literally). I know 0 about how much PAR for good viewing. What light do you recommend instead? Thank you very much for catching those. Sorry I am new to the lighting thing. I don't use a light on my current tank as I only have anubias.

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It says 3/4 inch hoses. I already shimmed the stand. I don't need to cycle as I have 11 neon tetras in a cascade 200 and the filter will go in there when the time comes. Then when I need to quarantine the new fish after about 6 months, I can put the cascade back on the 10 gallon for quarantine. As for the sand, thank you so much. I checked the website and the price is cheaper than dirt.(literally). I know 0 about how much PAR for good viewing. What light do you recommend instead? Thank you very much for catching those. Sorry I am new to the lighting thing. I don't use a light on my current tank as I only have anubias.
Adding new decor, substrate, and all that will still cause ammonia, even if you put on an already established filter. The established filter will definitely help, but I wouldn't bet on an "insta-cycle".


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