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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-24-2019, 04:06 PM Thread Starter
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Rebuilding everything. Lost a lot in last years fire season . Packed SPS tank destroyed and I don’t have the heart to restart it again. My setup has laid dormant for about a year . Most stuff stained of salt, as I clean out my sandy bottom and find skeletons still in the tank . Over several days I have cleaned out the tank and 2 sumps . Only to have 16 bags of Seachem Flourite show up at my door ( Maybe more ?) to have to be rinsed and cleaned . Oh but how cool it is to care about doing something fun with the tank again. I relentlessly have been working now for a long time non stop. I feel like I’m back into a hobby again . I’m excited to get into everything with the planted side of aquariums . I’m still finishing some things up it’s a work in progress. ( As always? )

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The display is a 420g. 8x3x28 . Sump below middle is 75g + whatever else. I also ran a huge Rubbermaid previously, but I think I will not run it this time and get some more space in the fish room.

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ask and receive! What a massive setup. Sorry for the loss of the previous incarnation It must have been a sight in all its glory.

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Look forward to following your rebuilding.
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Hey there! It looks like we'll be able to get this to work. It'll take some doing, but it should be able to be done. Could you please get detailed pictures of the whole sump system? It's difficult to tell where things are going and what is actually going on in there. Getting good filtration up and running is going to be the most important bit to start with as nearly all sumps made for salt water are junk when it comes to filtering freshwater systems.
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I will post more pictures of the sump. I can customize it however needs. What is your ideal filtration? The sump basically consists of a 75gallon tank inside the sump. I have 4 overflows that go into the "middle sump" and "rest of the sump area" then it spills over into the water running below it and is then into the returns. I was actually thinking of cutting out the middle sump area to eliminate some of the water in the system for less c02 usage. I could fill it with bio balls or whatever else and plumb the water into it however. I built the entire system myself so no problems adjusting. I do not want to have to dose nitrates though is my only concern. What were you thinking Phil? Also if anyone else has suggestions on whatever i'm open for anything. Building for success not hurt feelings. I do not know that much about freshwater. I bred Oscar types for years a long long time ago, and then went into saltwater for about 10 years. Never had plants before. But they do sound a LOT like coral. Hopefully I don't have to come around corner to see white plants in the morning I am going to shoot for 50 par on the sand and 150 on top of plants. I also have a couple different spectrum bulbs coming ( even though I really love just 2 tropics running makes my plants look very very green. ) I like a couple different spectrum Greggz posted. Also a c02 drop checker. Decided against the peat is in my 10gal floating kind of scaring me thinking about putting it in.

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Cool your only a couple hours south of me.
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I will post more pictures of the sump. I can customize it however needs. What is your ideal filtration? The sump basically consists of a 75gallon tank inside the sump. I have 4 overflows that go into the "middle sump" and "rest of the sump area" then it spills over into the water running below it and is then into the returns. I was actually thinking of cutting out the middle sump area to eliminate some of the water in the system for less c02 usage. I could fill it with bio balls or whatever else and plumb the water into it however. I built the entire system myself so no problems adjusting. I do not want to have to dose nitrates though is my only concern. What were you thinking Phil? Also if anyone else has suggestions on whatever i'm open for anything. Building for success not hurt feelings. I do not know that much about freshwater. I bred Oscar types for years a long long time ago, and then went into saltwater for about 10 years. Never had plants before. But they do sound a LOT like coral. Hopefully I don't have to come around corner to see white plants in the morning I am going to shoot for 50 par on the sand and 150 on top of plants. I also have a couple different spectrum bulbs coming ( even though I really love just 2 tropics running makes my plants look very very green. ) I like a couple different spectrum Greggz posted. Also a c02 drop checker. Decided against the peat is in my 10gal floating kind of scaring me thinking about putting it in.

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Cool your only a couple hours south of me.
Another Northern Californian?

Ah-- now Im seeing the connection. Your not from Paradise are you?

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Very close yes we were evacuated for 2+ weeks.

Side note I think I got my first blossom or something these small balls popped open . Looks cool ? Been in tank for 5 days . I can’t post a pic it keeps saying too big .
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How do the drains coming out above the water in the sump not drive you nuts heh, surely it's not that difficult to make something to hold the filter socks in place? I guess if the noise doesn't bother you it doesn't really matter though.
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Hey there Maybe,

Those are flower and daughter plant buds coming from your swords. At this point it's in your best interest to trim those off so the plant puts all of its energy into growing rather than making babies.

As for the filter system, detailed photos will help me see what the flow is like in the various parts of the sump(s) which will let me figure out how to get actual filtration going. Socks alone aren't sufficient filtration for a freshwater system since they don't have the rock to act as biological filtration or a skimmer to deal with dissolved pollutants.

I've never regretted over engineering a system, but often regretted under engineering one.
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