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Hi guys, newbie here to planted tanks. I do have tanks setup now which are biotope or growout tank. I basely keep wild discus and wild altum angels. I have also kept smaller SA cichlids, cories and tetras. The tank I will be working with is a 50 gallon tank which is basically 36x15x20 inches tall or so. First I need to reattach the background. It's a background from Universal Rocks and silicone does not seen to work with it. . After that I will be looking into lighting and substrate. Thinking low tech with a sand substrate and a SA theme.



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What lighting would you guys recommend for a low-light tank? or do the plant choices need to be considered first and I know tank height is also a consideration.
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@jeffkrol can help with lighting.

180 g. low tech w/ wild South American cichlids, corydoras eques, and African Congo riverine tetras.
60 g. low tech w/ F1 Alenquer pair /Stendker "Tefe" discus and wild Altum Angels
30 g. low tech w/ Wild Tucano tetras
30 g. low-tech African Biotope
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What lighting would you guys recommend for a low-light tank? or do the plant choices need to be considered first and I know tank height is also a consideration.
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Hey Pat, welcome to TPT. What's your budget like for the light? Would you prefer cheap and very basic, or something that's going to cost more with bells and whistles? i.e. sunrise, sunset, adjustable spectrum, etc..
What color sand are you looking for? I've been using sand exclusively in my high-tech tanks now for a while, could probably give you some good recommendations there.
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Hey Pat, welcome to TPT. What's your budget like for the light? Would you prefer cheap and very basic, or something that's going to cost more with bells and whistles? i.e. sunrise, sunset, adjustable spectrum, etc..
What color sand are you looking for? I've been using sand exclusively in my high-tech tanks now for a while, could probably give you some good recommendations there.

Hi mgeorges, I use some basic LEDs over my tanks now and it would be nice to have it do the whole shebang. Especially for plants. But I do wish to remain under $200. Regarding sand; I use sand in my discus tanks. Generally use PFS as it is inert however always open to suggestions
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Finnex 24/7. I have two current led plus pros but I always see people recommending the Finnex. Just can’t speak from personal experience
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Finnex 24/7. I have two current led plus pros but I always see people recommending the Finnex. Just canít speak from personal experience

Hi Stayinblitzed, I actually had a Current LED Pro over my 230 have had no issues with it. I have seen both the Current and Finnex recommended in the online reviews.

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I have a Finnex 24/7 and I appreciate its ease of use as a fellow beginner. It's been able to grow every plant I've added (I haven't tried any high light stem plants). Maybe I'll experiment with custom settings eventually, but the programs are working great.

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Hi Ankhari, does the Finnex have a build-in program or did you need to setup it up?
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Built-in. The only thing you have to do is select what time it's closest to (increments of 3 hours), double click a button and it's off and running. You can customize the RGB channels to create 4 different programs, but I've not been that adventurous (read: lazy).

Have you looked at the Fluval 3.0 at all? That's the one that gets all the raves and has a better warranty than the Finnex. 3 years instead of whatever the Finnex has, which might sway you that way. There are definitely some bad reviews of the 24/7 out there, but mine has been without problems for the year and a quarter I've had it.

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Built-in. The only thing you have to do is select what time it's closest to (increments of 3 hours), double click a button and it's off and running. You can customize the RGB channels to create 4 different programs, but I've not been that adventurous (read: lazy).

Have you looked at the Fluval 3.0 at all? That's the one that gets all the raves and has a better warranty than the Finnex. 3 years instead of whatever the Finnex has, which might sway you that way. There are definitely some bad reviews of the 24/7 out there, but mine has been without problems for the year and a quarter I've had it.

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Hi Ankhari, thank you for mentioning the Fluval 3.0. I spend the afternoon comparing the Fluval 3.0 with the Finnex and decided on the Fluval 3.0 and ordered it.

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So a friend on the SimplyDiscus forum is sending me some plants. He is sending Java Fern and a few small anubias. At this point I do not have the tank setup so considering moving a 10 gallon to the front porch and placing the plants in that. I am in fla so having things outside should not be an issue. The tank will be placed to get some light without being in the direct sun.

I do want to treat the plants for snails. If I recall correctly a weak bleach dip will do this. I will need to lookup the percentage as I do not want to melt the plants and the anubias should be mounted on wood according to my friend. Thoughts on this??
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Apparently the Java Fern needs to be mounted on wood also.
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You shouldn’t need any driftwood for the fern. It can grow in substrate too. I believe the ratio is 4 parts water to 1 part bleach. But you have to be careful not to leave in too long and kill your plants also. Maybe better to just wash it the best. Then set up a snail trap. Just use some lettuce and leave it in the tank for a few hours. Collect all the snails off it
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Hi Ankhari, thank you for mentioning the Fluval 3.0. I spend the afternoon comparing the Fluval 3.0 with the Finnex and decided on the Fluval 3.0 and ordered it.

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For your price range and light requirement, I think the 3.0 is going to be one of your best choices. 3 year warranty and waterproof, two features that Finnex doesn't offer. Sorry for the delay on my response! Busy weekend.

Also, for snail treatment, you can do a potassium permanganate dip to take care of nasties. Bleach works, but the potassium permanganate is considered safer. If you want to go the bleach route, I've always seen the recommended dilution ratio at 20:1. Washing first is a good idea to knock loose what you can, also visually inspect for snails eggs.

Fern ROOTS can be placed in the substrate, but if you bury the rhizome, it will rot and die. Driftwood or stone is great for attaching ferns, and you can use either super glue or thread to attach your plants.
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