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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 06-03-2019, 02:25 PM Thread Starter
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100g Summer breeding pond log

Although I have been in the hobby casually for a while this is my first attempt at pond breeding. I am a white cloud fan and wanted to try to breed them this summer in a tub pond since I've read it's a fairly easy method to breed white clouds. I'm posting this log in hopes to get advice and recommendations and to share my experience.


I setup this 100 gallon stock tank in early May. I put in a dozen or so pieces of pre-soaked cholla wood and a 3d printed truncated octahedron for structure. I live on a personal well in IL so I filled the tote, dropped in some established media and a wonder shell, and called it good. The next day I added 7 gold white clouds and 8 regular ones. I had a 50watt heater running through most of may to take the edge off of the lows. The pond is right near a window so I can feed and check water parameters without even going outside.





I'm using chicken wire to keep out critters and hopefully dragon flies. I'm not using any filtration but I am running two air stones, one on each side on the pond.







So my attempt with getting the giant duckweek to grow has failed. I want to use it to improve water quality and provide cover but when I put new plants in it just slowly turnes red and isn't multiplying like it does in my indoor tanks. I have all the required fertilizer salts to run a hydroponic system and I'm getting tempted to mix some up and dump it in but at the same time I don't want an aglae explosion either. This pond has had many of those helicopter seeds drop into the water but the fish and water seem fine atm.








A couple weeks ago I got fry, some gold and some regular, although the gold fry seem to be disappearing. I wonder if the parents are eating them.


Also my feeding schedule is I feed 0.2tsp of live baby brine in the morning and fluval bug bites in the afternoon. I haven't seen the fry eat the baby brine yet but they are growing.



Thanks for reading.
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I would go get some Water Lettuce or Water Hyacinth. Maybe they will do better.
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The water was getting pretty stained with tannins and the baby production has appeared to slow down since the initial boom. So this weekend I did a 50% water change, I dosed 1tsp of methelyne blue, and went to a pond down the street and picked up a scoop of daphnia to add to my pond hoping they will culture and be added food for the minnows.

During the change I didn't see a single original but I did see a few half grown juveniles and half a dozen fry. I'm hoping there are more below. When I started this I didn't realize I would hardly see my fish all summer. Thinking about doing another water change in a few days to clear things up further.
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I stepped up my feeding a bit, feeding about .5tsp of fluval bug bites and .2tsp of baby brine every day, so I'm keeping up with weekly 50% water changes and 1 tsp of methylene blue w/ each water change. The tannin staining is mostly gone and I now have light green water which I'm happy to have in there. I rarely see my original stock, only occasionally I get a glimpse of one of the golds darting to the surface to grab some baby brine or some algae.

I finally got some pictures of the first breeding, now in their juvenile stage, but finally starting to look like real white clouds.
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I decided to close down the pond for the summer. I haven't seen any new fry for a few weeks and the existing babies have grown out to tank ready size. My guess is the fry stopped showing up because of snails sneaking their way into the pond and eating eggs and temps being very high. Some days the water was hitting 90F. I was very happy with the results and will try again next year for sure.
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This is great - thank you for sharing.

Maybe next season you'll be able to find a way to provide more shade for the pond so it doesn't get so warm. With some good floating plant cover and a bit of shade, they'll probably go for much longer.
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I also have a 100 gallon stock tank outside. It has some water lily's, water lettuce, duckweed, dwarf water lettuce, crypts, watersprite, anachris, plus more that I can't think of right now. In this past week's hot spell, 100 degrees, the tank got up to 90-91 and the fish really didn't seem to mind. In fact the cichlids were more active than they had been, just not at mid-day. Occupants are Nanacara anomala and Corydorus elegans.

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I also have a 100 gallon stock tank outside. It has some water lily's, water lettuce, duckweed, dwarf water lettuce, crypts, watersprite, anachris, plus more that I can't think of right now. In this past week's hot spell, 100 degrees, the tank got up to 90-91 and the fish really didn't seem to mind. In fact the cichlids were more active than they had been, just not at mid-day. Occupants are Nanacara anomala and Corydorus elegans.

Neat. How much aeration are you using?
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I have one of those submersible pumps (Chinese) from Amazon. I think it was about $13 total and it works great!

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