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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 02-11-2019, 03:00 AM Thread Starter
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redoing an old tank

algae still strong
just added co2 and shrimp
fish surviving
changed gravel, eco complete and black diamond
Finnex planted plus 24/7 2 years


I'm trying to freshen up my old tank. I finally had it going great after being a noob. I left it in someone else's care, they didn't care lol, so it got bad and I finally moved it to my new home. I killed all the fish in the process of moving it, but had a ton of plants. I used all my old stuff and set it back up. after a week we added fish, some have lived and some have died but after about 5 months, I've got some good healthy fish.

I am having trouble getting the plants to thrive and have an algae issue. about a month ago I decided to do an over haul. I took out all of the old gravel and replaced it will 20lbs eco complete, and 100lbs of black diamond sand. I was hoping the gravel would help with nutrition, but no progress in plants. Today I added co2 on very low , 4 more guppies, another female beta and 16 shrimp.

I started co2 on low because of adding new fish, i don't wanna over pollute it. However I will bump up co2 in a week if plants dont get better.

Next goal is a new light, I want something that is automate cause I'm not that technical at programming lights. I'm looking for something like the planted+ 24/7 but bluetooth.

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not much to update, but after a few days of co2, I'm so happy to see a very nice red sprout from this plant.... I has looked so bad for the past few months. so I cut off the bad stuff to let this one shine

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Eco Complete is supplying nothing to your plants. They need fed, you're starving them.
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Eco Complete is supplying nothing to your plants. They need fed, you're starving them.
think I should get root tabs? every few days I been adding excel too

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Get some dry ferts, they are cheap as chips and give you the ability to combat singular deficiencies. It will greatly improve your plant health if you get it figure out and dialed in!


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Get some dry ferts, they are cheap as chips and give you the ability to combat singular deficiencies. It will greatly improve your plant health if you get it figure out and dialed in!
got a certain brand I should look for?

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I personally have the NilocG range, found on their website. But there is also a GLA range of ferts. I cant speak for GLA, but it would be high quality I'm sure.
Have a quick look at some of the more experienced keepers tanks on here, like burr or greggz. See what others use. Then have a read on dosing.
Whilst writing this I've forgotten if you are injecting co2. If not then you will be dosing low tech amounts, which I think Tom Barr said to be dosed either at an 8th or quarter of the EI method. Once a week or something, my mind is failing me.
Advice, honestly just reading and absorbing info, but without the proper ferts etc you will get caught up with deficiencies and algae.
Sorry if I rambled.
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Doubling up, apologies.
Yep co2 injected. So full EI or PPS method should be used.
Many many threads out there about these methods. Give them a read 🙂


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Doubling up, apologies.
Yep co2 injected. So full EI or PPS method should be used.
Many many threads out there about these methods. Give them a read 🙂
thanks, I just started the co2 for a few days now. I've already noticed improvement in the plants. I ordered new light that comes in today (fluval 3.0) I been adding excel, and the eco complete was just added last month... I will check into the what you advised, but it's all kinda new and I'm sure needs more time to level out.

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Be careful with what eco complete promises, it doesn't quite do all it says.
It's all a journey, just be patient and take everything as a learning experience


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Be careful with what eco complete promises, it doesn't quite do all it says.
It's all a journey, just be patient and take everything as a learning experience
thanks! yeah it's all been one step at a time. just got the co2 setup, I'm happy with my subtract as far as texture, with using the black diamond, planting is easy. maybe in 6 months I'll try to redo the subtract. makes it sorta easy with black diamond being some cheap. I'll keep throwing in the excel. just got my new night tonight too!



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my old light hovered right over the water, with co2, I think it messed up my old lights.

I been searching for a new light and chose the fluval 3.0

honestly the 24/7 mode, and no controller to keep up with, is why I got it. I have not played with it though.

so to keep the light high, I unscrewed the top hatch of the wood hood and laid the light on the top. *fingers crossed on new light*

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height on new fluval 3.0

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I don't recall how the Fluval comes at default settings but starting out you probably want to dim it down to < %50 and no more than about 4-6 hours at higher levels. You can scale things up if needed from there. Very easy to do using the app. Better to start slow and correct up/down as you go than having to recover from creating a mess with too much light.
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