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post #106 of 148 (permalink) Old 06-25-2020, 04:25 AM Thread Starter
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First things first... I'm hoping someone here can help me with a plant ID. I got this plant labeled as Staurogyne sp. Kerala but I don't think that's what it is. It's the plant with the small roundish leaves in the pictures below.


My understanding was that Staurogyne sp. Kerala leaves come to a point, while these are rounded at the tips. This is also growing more vertically, and more quickly, than I'd expect from a staurogyne species. Could it be Clinipodium brownei? Let me know what you think it might be.

Overall the tank is starting to look really good. The red ludwigia on the side doesn't stand out enough from the background so I think I'm going to use the water wisteria, or some other lacy plant, for the right hand side.



Speaking of the background, the moss is still giving me trouble. The tank would be ready for a "final" shot in a couple weeks if I could get the moss to grow out. I might try placing it in a tray of water outside in the sun for a week or so and see if I can kick off some growth.

The highlight for me right now is the crypts. They've gotten really dense and attractive leaves. I have no idea why it goes in cycles of looking amazing then suddenly melting, but at least it looks good for now!

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I honestly just want to be able submit something to the AGA and have them say, "Yes, that is a Dutch aquascape." Don't get me wrong, it would be great to do well, but I feel somewhat limited in my composition options by the height of the tank (12"). To be able to just be considered would be very cool.

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it looked a little bit like lobelia cardinalis "mini" but it is stretching out too long. Hmm was it something you traded or bought from someone on here?
I always love these random intruder plants but hard to ID

I love the last tank shot but if you switched the water wisteria for the L.Red I think it would help comply with that "green on the corners" stuff and actually make the structure a little better. The ludwigia looks good just needs time to grown up and redden up.

The blyxa is great because it gives you both red/green contrast when it's happy. The hydrocotyle tripartita looks good as a bushy blob on the side.I wonder if it's hard to keep maintain if you want it super narrow as a divider.

pshh, the height doesn't matter, the tank looks great! definitely a dutch scape once everything starts to fill in!
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Not a whole lot to report. Still just waiting on that moss wall to fill in. Everything's looking super lush though!
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it looked a little bit like lobelia cardinalis "mini" but it is stretching out too long. Hmm was it something you traded or bought from someone on here?

I always love these random intruder plants but hard to ID



I love the last tank shot but if you switched the water wisteria for the L.Red I think it would help comply with that "green on the corners" stuff and actually make the structure a little better. The ludwigia looks good just needs time to grown up and redden up.



The blyxa is great because it gives you both red/green contrast when it's happy. The hydrocotyle tripartita looks good as a bushy blob on the side.I wonder if it's hard to keep maintain if you want it super narrow as a divider.



pshh, the height doesn't matter, the tank looks great! definitely a dutch scape once everything starts to fill in!
One of the guys in my club thinks the mystery plant is hygrophila serpyllum, and it does look a lot like that. I can't confirm though so I'm currently transitioning to emerged growth to be able to tell the difference.

I did move the ludwigia as you said and after a week it looks so good that it gets to stay there. Unfortunately that meant another plant had to get the axe (stupid Dutch rules!) so the hydrocotyle tripartita is gone. The problem is that now with the blyxa all over the right hand foreground it's way too red, so now it might have to switch places with the staurogyne repens.... It's never ending!

I'm currently visiting family for a couple of weeks so I'm sure I'll have some sort of disaster on my hands when I get back. Oh well, as long as we're quarantined I have nothing else to fill my time!

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Oh the tank really is fillin in! Lookin good

Good luck when you get back, heres to hopin nothing bad awaits you
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Back from a vacation in Utah. What a beautiful part of the country!

My dreams of aquatic disaster were unfounded. The tank (really just the rotala) is way overgrown, but I have to admit I kind of like it. Very wild looking! No algae even with no water changes for two weeks.

I'll get my hands in there tomorrow for a trim and water change, I'm too exhausted tonight. Stay tuned for an update!

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very nicely grown in tank! for 2 weeks without maintenance I think it did pretty awesome!
how did you manage to feed the fish during that time? did you fertilize at all?

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My mom came by and fed the fish and watered the garden. I front loaded ferts at about half the usual level

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Your mystery plant looks like Lobelia Cardinalis, possibly the mini variety. I have it in my tank as well currently. It grows short and thick under high lighting, but tends to stay tall and slender under lower light levels (normally).
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The staurogyne repens and pogo erectus need to be uprooted and replanted, but I'm putting it off for another week. Anybody think the crypt spiralis needs to be thinned out too? I can't decide.

I want to expand the ludwigia red grouping. I also need to fix the syngonanthus as it's a pretty uneven street at the moment.

On a more structural level the blyxa kind of blends in to the substrate and I wish it was more green. I'm going to see if some osmocote will help it turn green.

I'd also love feedback on the spacing of the groups. Is it too crowded? Anyways, pic below.


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The first moss wall was ugly and didn't really work. I went with Burr's method instead. I had trouble finding the mesh at first but if anyone's looking it can be found if you search for "fur suit eye mesh" on Amazon (I know, weird AF). I'm currently trying two different walls, right side is mini Christmas moss and the left side is anubias nana petite.



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How'd you end up attaching the mesh to the back of the tank? I was planning out something similar to anchor my mass of moss and was considering magnets but curious of what you used.

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Hi @gjcarew,

How'd you end up attaching the mesh to the back of the tank? I was planning out something similar to anchor my mass of moss and was considering magnets but curious of what you used.

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Since it's two pieces of needlepoint mesh it's actually pretty rigid. I just shoved it in to the substrate in the back and it stands up on its own.

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hmm.. nice. plus its a low height so you don't have that leaning out at the top.


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