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I control the flow via the gate valve on the output of the CO2 reactor. I need to control the flow to reduce the gurgling noise from the overflow. The aquarium is in a bedroom that's been converted into an office aquarium room, but yet still has a bed. When one of my kids come home and use the bed I reduce the flow to reduce the noise. One of these days I plan on trying the DC pump route as an experiment, but for now the Eheim pump works great for the application. The Eheim pump has an internal foam filter, so it won't be able to ingest up any of the plants.
I see. So if you had to take the CO2 reactor offline, the tank circulation would be down during that time? I'd suggest either T-ing off your return and valving the reactor and return line (your pump should be able to handle that) or running the reactor with a dedicated pump. The later would be preferable to avoid double processing water. Just in case you ever had to service the reactor, you could take it offline (unions are your friend!) and keep the rest of the tank running. Just a thought. My tank is in my bedroom as well so I understand the necessity for quietness. This is, by far, the most silent pump I've ever used:

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They pack a hell of a punch for their size and are controllable. It likely wouldn't function to power everything in a 55 gallon tank, but it would run your reactor no sweat.


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I see. So if you had to take the CO2 reactor offline, the tank circulation would be down during that time?
https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/might...ve-marine.html

They pack a hell of a punch for their size and are controllable. It likely wouldn't function to power everything in a 55 gallon tank, but it would run your reactor no sweat.
The sump is only 1/3 of the overall tanks's filtration system. See below for a diagram of the plumbing system. There's also two canister filters running. Let's just say I have plenty of filtration!!


The pump you recommended looks nice; how quiet it is? The $100 price is a very good price for a DC pump, but it's out of stock everywhere I look.
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I am learning so much from this thread. Thank you, Ken, and all the posters.
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The sump is only 1/3 of the overall tanks's filtration system. See below for a diagram of the plumbing system. There's also two canister filters running. Let's just say I have plenty of filtration!!


The pump you recommended looks nice; how quiet it is? The $100 price is a very good price for a DC pump, but it's out of stock everywhere I look.
Ah, got it. I'd still recommend doing so as it makes life significantly easier. In any case, the pump is essentially silent. The most quiet pump I've come across. There is a reason it is always sold out. But it is small. Depending on your length of plumbing back to the main tank, pipe diameter and turnover rates, I don't know if I can recommend it for a 55. That said, with about 4 or 5 feet of 1/2 PVC/Vinyl, on the 29 gallon, I have it set on the lowest setting and could still probably dial it back with a valve some. It really is powerful for how tiny it is. Keep in mind, though, that it is acting only as a return. I have another one dedicated to running the CO2 reactor. I'm confident it would run both pretty easily, but not on the lowest setting.
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Thanks for the write up Ken, really enjoy seeing the inner workings of other setups. What is that container you are using as the ATO reservoir?


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Thanks for the write up Ken, really enjoy seeing the inner workings of other setups. What is that container you are using as the ATO reservoir?
Thanks H8! It's a Tamco 7 gallon polyethylene tank - 10" Dia. x 20" High
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Thanks H8! It's a Tamco 7 gallon polyethylene tank - 10" Dia. x 20" High
Random but I was planning on just using a 10 gallon rubbermaid container to hold the ATO water. think it'd be an issue or is it safer to go with this FDA polyethylene tank?

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Random but I was planning on just using a 10 gallon rubbermaid container to hold the ATO water. think it'd be an issue or is it safer to go with this FDA polyethylene tank?
You should be fine with the Rubbermaind container. But sometimes the Rubbermaid containers have very thin walls that make it difficult to make penetrations. Not knowing exactly what you're using is hard to say if it'll work or not, but most likely it'll work.


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Random but I was planning on just using a 10 gallon rubbermaid container to hold the ATO water. think it'd be an issue or is it safer to go with this FDA polyethylene tank?
I'm currently just using a 5 gal clear measuring bucket from HD. I don't think it can get much easier than that. However, I am looking to replace with a larger container.
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A dog food container is a great container for ATO water.


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The past weekend was spent trimming and removing plants. I got tired of the pygmy sword plants and removed quite a few of them. Interesting, the pygmy sword plants grew up to 9’ depending on how much light was received. In the photo below you can see how on the left the pygmy sword plants are very short because the plants are shaded by other plants. In the left center where they received full light the plants are much taller, some as high as 9”. The center right is were they don’t receive as much light and are shorter. In all cases the plants looked healthy and green.

I did notice the plants were larger and healthier than before and I’m assuming this was because of the extra T5HO I’ve was running the last couple of weeks. I took it out because the plants grew to quick, but I may end up putting it back in.

Luckily for me I was able to exchange the plants for a carrot cake from @Discusluv! I probably could of given her all my plants in my tank in exchange for the carrot cake and I would of still come out ahead in the deal. Her baking is fantastic, well worth the trade!













After the trim:


I can now see the fish!


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Nice plant scraps. Those would be great in my pico tanks.
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Ken the tank is looking great.

What is your N:P:K weekly dosing lately? Thinking we might need to revive the "share your dosing" thread and see where everyone is.

And IMO carrot cake is highly underrated.......might be my favorite when done well. And that one looks pretty darn good!!


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@Ken Keating1 - I find I get much more enjoyment out of "trading" vs selling. Have traded or given away many plants from my tanks.
But, carrot cake - that is likely a better deal than I have ever received. Enjoy! Really gonna have to work out a good selection of plants one of these days for @Discusluv :-)
Have to admit - you tank is looking great Ken - lot of very healthy looking plants!

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What is your N:P:K weekly dosing lately? Thinking we might need to revive the "share your dosing" thread and see where everyone is.

And IMO carrot cake is highly underrated.......might be my favorite when done well. And that one looks pretty darn good!!
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The past weekend was spent trimming and removing plants. I got tired of the pygmy sword plants and removed quite a few of them. Interesting, the pygmy sword plants grew up to 9’ depending on how much light was received. In the photo below you can see how on the left the pygmy sword plants are very short because the plants are shaded by other plants. In the left center where they received full light the plants are much taller, some as high as 9”. The center right is were they don’t receive as much light and are shorter. In all cases the plants looked healthy and green.

I did notice the plants were larger and healthier than before and I’m assuming this was because of the extra T5HO I’ve was running the last couple of weeks. I took it out because the plants grew to quick, but I may end up putting it back in.

Luckily for me I was able to exchange the plants for a carrot cake from @Discusluv! I probably could of given her all my plants in my tank in exchange for the carrot cake and I would of still come out ahead in the deal. Her baking is fantastic, well worth the trade!













After the trim:


I can now see the fish!
So glad you enjoyed the carrot cake. Im not very good at making them pretty, but I can bake them so they taste good- lol! Thats the most important part

Let me know when your ready for another one: cake, pie- cookies- whatever!!
I put all the pygmy swords in my discus tank-- I now have quite the carpet in this tank-- it looks fabulous! Now, if I can only keep it that way

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@Ken Keating1 - I find I get much more enjoyment out of "trading" vs selling. Have traded or given away many plants from my tanks.
But, carrot cake - that is likely a better deal than I have ever received. Enjoy! Really gonna have to work out a good selection of plants one of these days for @Discusluv :-)
Have to admit - you tank is looking great Ken - lot of very healthy looking plants!

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This sounds wonderful @Immortal1 ! Of course I would be thrilled to get some plants from you at some point. Thank you
We could trade for some Gold rams or yellow shrimp-- I have an overabundance of them.


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