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That rock kinda looks like mica. Is it a bit flakey? A quick search shows it seems ok to use if that's what it is, but I have no experience with it myself.
It's not particularly flaky, no. I don't think it's mica, but I'm not sure.

In any case, I took some tap water and filled one of the sections of the sump. Then I watched the pH via the Apex. It settled out at 6.9. Then I put the rock in and have been watching the pH all day. It went to 6.86 over the course of the day, so I at least don't think it's contributing any buffering capacity.


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The milk crates on the left house the ATO reservoir and the doser/dosing containers.
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Subscribed. This is a really educational thread, and I wish I could hire you to build a stand for me.

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Subscribed. This is a really educational thread, and I wish I could hire you to build a stand for me.
Thanks! But to be honest, if I can do it, anyone can

I have to start taking pictures with my DSLR, as the LED blue nonsense starts again... I did end up going with the 18" SB Reef Light Freshwater fixture. I'll be interested to see the PAR numbers once the tank is filled. It looks like hanging it eliminated any shadowing, but I'll have to wait and see what it looks like once it's filled.
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So here is what is going on behind the milk crates:



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Now *that* is a "high-tech setup."
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Starting to play with the hardscape a bit:



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I really love the way Seiryu looks. I think I like this basic hardscape, though I may get some more seiryu and replace the flat stone on the left.





I used BDBS, but also want to dry start this tank to form the carpet. So I put a very light layer of Fluval Stratum under the top layer of sand. I'm hoping that provides the nutrients for the dry start. I'm not too worried about it breaking down as there isn't much there. By the time the nutrients are exhausted, I will be dosing the water column, so I think I should be OK. I guess we shall see.


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Subscribed! Your design to attach the stand skin with cabinet magnets is genius! Also it's nice to follow threads that are way beyond my ability right now gives me something to strive for!
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Subscribed! Your design to attach the stand skin with cabinet magnets is genius! Also it's nice to follow threads that are way beyond my ability right now gives me something to strive for!
That's what I thought the first time I saw it as well haha. Actually, I never saw it applied to stand panels. I saw someone use the technique on hood panels and thought it would be super convenient to apply that to stand panels.

This is the part I'm usually pretty good at. But I'm still a total noob when it comes to keeping FW plants. I'm trying to set myself up for success. Hopefully it goes well. I just fixed a stupid mistake I noticed I missed when looking at the pics I took of the doser...


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It's not particularly flaky, no. I don't think it's mica, but I'm not sure.

In any case, I took some tap water and filled one of the sections of the sump. Then I watched the pH via the Apex. It settled out at 6.9. Then I put the rock in and have been watching the pH all day. It went to 6.86 over the course of the day, so I at least don't think it's contributing any buffering capacity.
The gold specks look like iron pyrite (aka "fool's gold", iron disulfide, FeS2). Check out this link. You might not want it in your tank.

https://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/rock_metals.php
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Just stumbled across this thread.

Very nice job on everything so far. NASA would be proud of you!

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Ok, consider me impressed. I don't know what half the stuff in the stand is supposed to do. Give us a virtual tour of this masterpiece.

Oh, and get some hose clamps around the tubing attached to the barb fittings.
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The gold specks look like iron pyrite (aka "fool's gold", iron disulfide, FeS2). Check out this link. You might not want it in your tank.

https://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/rock_metals.php
It's interesting you mention that. First, I should point out that the picture is exceptionally misleading. The "gold" is really just the warm (3500K) light reflecting off the shiny bits. That said, if I look very, very closely I do see 1 or 2 tiny flecks of what may be pyrite, about 0.5 mm across. Lowering the pH may actually be a desirable side effect of any small amount of pyrite as the Seiryu will have the opposite effect. But you definitely have me thinking. I have some geology field guides that I may take a look at to determine what this really is.

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Very nice job on everything so far. NASA would be proud of you!

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Thank you! I'm sure I'll be asking for advice going forward!

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Ok, consider me impressed. I don't know what half the stuff in the stand is supposed to do. Give us a virtual tour of this masterpiece.

Oh, and get some hose clamps around the tubing attached to the barb fittings.
Yes, I'll have to put my amazing (read: terrible) MS paint skills to the test and make a flow diagram of what the hell is going on there. I usually have to do this anyway so when I'm on vacation the tank sitters know what they are looking at.

Hose clamps. Yeah, I know. there will be very little pressure on these, so my concern is quite low, but better safe than sorry I suppose.

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We tend to complicate things, huh?

In researching, I'm wondering if any more Seiryu is a good idea. My original thought was to dry start and build a nice carpet. But without knowing exactly how this much stone will raise the pH, I wonder if that is a good idea. If I already have plants established, then flood it and realize I have a lot of water chemistry work to do, will that destroy what will take probably a couple months to build dry starting?


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