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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-02-2018, 08:35 AM Thread Starter
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Journal time.

I've only been keeping discus for 5 months. My tanks current set up is 4 months old.

Tank is L100cm x H50cm x D40cm. 200 Litres, 52 US Gallons.

Stocking: 6 juvenile discus, 30 cadinal tetra, 2 rummy nose, 4 oto cats, 5 cory, 1 electrc blue ram, 1 bristlenose, 4 amano shrimp (soon to be 20!!)

Water changing routine - basically, i have two other tanks. A 5 gallon planted low tech nano and a shallow 7 gallon blackwater. I take out about 5 litres of these a day and refill with water from the discus tank. I then refill the Discus tank. This means that i basically get a 5% change per day, and then on a sunday, i do a big 5% water change with water conditioner.
Filtration - i have a 1000l/hr canister filter with modified trays from manufacturer recommendations (my way has all foam in the bottom tray going from course to fine and two trays of crushed lava rock). Also, a 1800l/hr internal filter for flow and water polishing. I have this facing the glass to obstruct the flow speed but still get the faster filtration.

Soil/substrate - Under the sand capping (1 inch) is a mix of gravel and oliver knot aquasoil and tropica plant growth substrate on the base.

Dosing method: 30ml chelated trace elements.

co2 - I use a diy yeast/sugar method that fills two in tank reactors and lets the co2 slowly dissolve throughout the water over the photo period.

Lights - I have 2x T8 tubes and fitted a diy LED 20watt floodlight to the centre of the canopy. the T8's are on for about 17 hours and the LED floodlight for 10 hours. Some say thats way too much light...i have my fish to view them and enjoy them so i like the lights on. Fish seem absolutely fine with it as you can see and are never shy.

Tank progression in the photos, Pic 1 is day 1. 2 is 1 month, 3 is 2 months, 4 is 3 months, and 5 is now.

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New discus video: Update 2.0

New fish added as well guys. EEEEKK!!!

"for god's sake...not another fish" - My Wife Aug 2018

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Very beautiful tank. I enjoyed your video
Are these Stendkers? The larger discus, is it a Fire Red? --not sure, but it has some really excellent growth and shape. The others have some catching up to do but their color, their eyes, all appear vibrant and healthy.

Hope you dont mind answering some questions.

Are you doing 1- 50% water change once a week and 5% on the other days or is it 5% daily? Its not clear.
What are your nitrates averaging?

What do you feed the discus? How often?
Temperature?

I do look forward to following your documentation of this beautiful tank, but I am more interested in your experiment with growing out juvenile discus in a planted tank,with far less water changes, and in a community type setting.

Edit:And listen to your wife--- wives always know best .
No more fish! You are already stocked to the gills.


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Very beautiful tank. I enjoyed your video
Are these Stendkers? The larger discus, is it a Fire Red? --not sure, but it has some really excellent growth and shape. The others have some catching up to do but their color, their eyes, all appear vibrant and healthy.

Hope you dont mind answering some questions.

Are you doing 1- 50% water change once a week and 5% on the other days or is it 5% daily? Its not clear.
What are your nitrates averaging?

What do you feed the discus? How often?
Temperature?

I do look forward to following your documentation of this beautiful tank, but I am more interested in your experiment with growing out juvenile discus in a planted tank,with far less water changes, and in a community type setting.

Edit:And listen to your wife--- wives always know best .
No more fish! You are already stocked to the gills.
lol, i have 3 other tanks:

Questions:
Are these Stendkers?
No. I've no idea what they are. They are from my small local shop.

The larger discus, is it a Fire Red?
I couldnt tell you. I can say that it is dark orange rather than red?? It is a little older than the other fish, hence the size difference.

Are you doing 1- 50% water change once a week and 5% on the other days or is it 5% daily?
6 days a week i do a 5% water change, then on a sunday (international water change day haha) i do 40 - 50%

What are your nitrates averaging?
I've no idea. The only things levels i was interested in was pH of my tap and ammonia. I havent tested water pH for 8 or 9 months (only been keeping fish a year) and i test ammonia every other week before large water change. (test strip method, always shows zero).

What do you feed the discus?
Tetra Prima pellets. 3 times per day. 6am, 3pm or 5pm (depends when i finish work) and then 8pm. I did make some beef heart but it polluted the water so much that i decided a pellet with good reviews like tetra prime would be far better for all the fish overall. At the end of the day, im not looking to have the biggest discus in the world or show stoppers. just healthy fish i can enjoy. And thats the thing with discus really. The "rules" are really just to follow if you want maximum growth. If you are happy to have a few inches less growth then you can do your own
thing. As long as the fish are healthy.

Temperature
I keep my water at 29 degrees centigrade.

My theory always was, pack the tank out with plants and it will take care of everything else. Plants....amazing things!
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lol, i have 3 other tanks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOr4rcKnfY&t=14s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ49QLxggHs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFIUo_DMWhE&t=1s



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Are these Stendkers?

No. I've no idea what they are. They are from my small local shop.



The larger discus, is it a Fire Red?

I couldnt tell you. I can say that it is dark orange rather than red?? It is a little older than the other fish, hence the size difference.



Are you doing 1- 50% water change once a week and 5% on the other days or is it 5% daily?

6 days a week i do a 5% water change, then on a sunday (international water change day haha) i do 40 - 50%



What are your nitrates averaging?

I've no idea. The only things levels i was interested in was pH of my tap and ammonia. I havent tested water pH for 8 or 9 months (only been keeping fish a year) and i test ammonia every other week before large water change. (test strip method, always shows zero).



What do you feed the discus?

Tetra Prima pellets. 3 times per day. 6am, 3pm or 5pm (depends when i finish work) and then 8pm. I did make some beef heart but it polluted the water so much that i decided a pellet with good reviews like tetra prime would be far better for all the fish overall. At the end of the day, im not looking to have the biggest discus in the world or show stoppers. just healthy fish i can enjoy. And thats the thing with discus really. The "rules" are really just to follow if you want maximum growth. If you are happy to have a few inches less growth then you can do your own

thing. As long as the fish are healthy.



Temperature

I keep my water at 29 degrees centigrade.



My theory always was, pack the tank out with plants and it will take care of everything else. Plants....amazing things!


Good luck to you! Keep updating


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Picture of my favourite discus:



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it's [ img]url[/img]
but it doesn't seem that you can directly link to images from that site here so maybe just use the link button?
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it's [ img]url[/img]
but it doesn't seem that you can directly link to images from that site here so maybe just use the link button?
Thanks, ill try again later with a different image host site.


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So a jungle scape i created got very unkept . Looked quite authentic i feel and i really liked it, but the wife didnt, and it is in our living room. Plus, it had limited swim space for the discus.

Rescape needed.

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And here is the setup video of course:

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Beuatiful fish and tank! Personally, I prefer the original scape, but the new scape is also great and definitely tidier. It will look even better when the foreground grows in a little more around the rocks.
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Beuatiful fish and tank! Personally, I prefer the original scape, but the new scape is also great and definitely tidier. It will look even better when the foreground grows in a little more around the rocks.
Thank you.

Yes you are right, the new scape will fill in at the front and back and should look very effective in about a months time.


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Amazing videos and pics. I especially like how your discus are comfortable with being touched. My fish are the same way. My weather loaches love kissing my hands and arms when I am maintaining. Makes me really want to do a discus focused tank. My hard water presents challenges though.
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Amazing videos and pics. I especially like how your discus are comfortable with being touched. My fish are the same way. My weather loaches love kissing my hands and arms when I am maintaining. Makes me really want to do a discus focused tank. My hard water presents challenges though.

Thank you. Yes, my hands are always in the tank fiddling and maintaining so they are completely used to me.

And dont worry about your water. Discus have been bred to be much more tolerant of a wide range of water parameters now.

You can do half tap and half rain water during your changes. Just buy a cheap water butt to collect the rain water.


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So just over a month progress. The tank is fully settled. Background plants already grown to the top.

Will need its first trim very soon.
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Latest video on the tank guys with info on how i keep my tank clear, algae free and my DIY co2 system.

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