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Looks good, but I'd recommend verifying the length of the Sunblasters with the cord coming out of the end. Using plywood pieces to support the canopy onto the tank frame decreases the open length distance. On my canopy I had to remove the supporting wood pieces and replace with inverted 1/2" x 1/2" x 2" long aluminum angle iron pieces to be able to fit LED fixtures. You may be fine, but better to find out now if there's a problem rather than later on.


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Looks good, but I'd recommend verifying the length of the Sunblasters with the cord coming out of the end. Using plywood pieces to support the canopy onto the tank frame decreases the open length distance. On my canopy I had to remove the supporting wood pieces and replace with inverted 1/2" x 1/2" x 2" long aluminum angle iron pieces to be able to fit LED fixtures. You may be fine, but better to find out now if there's a problem rather than later on.
Thanks Ken, very good point. The daisy chain is what makes the fit a bit tight. Those plugs have the stiff coupling on them, however it does just 'fit'. In an ideal world the lights would be hard wire daisy chained, however I think I can make this work for simplicity.

The ends of the hood sit outside of the tank covering the trim, so I get a full run of the inside of the tank. I could have made the hood an inch longer (ID is currently just under 50 inches) to accommodate, with some sort of trim to avoid spillover light, though I think this will work well.

Appreciate the input, because that would have been a huge miss!
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Canopy looking great!

Love the use of the Kreg's pocket hole jig.

What are you going to do for doors on the openings??
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Canopy looking great!



Love the use of the Kreg's pocket hole jig.



What are you going to do for doors on the openings??
Thanks Gregg.

For the doors, I am going to attempt to make them. I have the router bit to make all the cuts, so we will see how they come out!

Here is what I'll be using. I'll take any advice you have to give!

Craftsman 2 pc. Ogee Stile & Rail Router Bit

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Thanks Gregg.

For the doors, I am going to attempt to make them. I have the router bit to make all the cuts, so we will see how they come out!

Here is what I'll be using. I'll take any advice you have to give!

Craftsman 2 pc. Ogee Stile & Rail Router Bit

When I built mine, I ended up ordering the doors. But I wanted raised panel doors, which would have been a lot of work to make. In your case, you probably want to match the lower cabinet.

You use the doors a lot more than you might think. Daily feedings, picking out any floating leaves, etc. So I went with lift up hinges. Makes them work as a "flipper" door. Lift up, and the door stays in place lifted up.

https://www.hardwaresource.com/lift-...partments.html
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When I built mine, I ended up ordering the doors. But I wanted raised panel doors, which would have been a lot of work to make. In your case, you probably want to match the lower cabinet.



You use the doors a lot more than you might think. Daily feedings, picking out any floating leaves, etc. So I went with lift up hinges. Makes them work as a "flipper" door. Lift up, and the door stays in place lifted up.



https://www.hardwaresource.com/lift-...partments.html
Perfect, exactly what I was looking for with hinges.

I may actually just router doors with a round end to match the bottom. That is a good idea and quite simple, single piece construction. I'll need to see if I have enough scrap!
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Thanks Gregg.

For the doors, I am going to attempt to make them. I have the router bit to make all the cuts, so we will see how they come out!

Here is what I'll be using. I'll take any advice you have to give!

Craftsman 2 pc. Ogee Stile & Rail Router Bit

Make sure that you design them so there is no light leakage. If you are viewing the tank at night, you probably don't want that.

You might be able to do inset doors that swing out and have an inner "bib" to block the light.
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When I built mine, I ended up ordering the doors. But I wanted raised panel doors, which would have been a lot of work to make. In your case, you probably want to match the lower cabinet.

You use the doors a lot more than you might think. Daily feedings, picking out any floating leaves, etc. So I went with lift up hinges. Makes them work as a "flipper" door. Lift up, and the door stays in place lifted up.

https://www.hardwaresource.com/lift-...partments.html
Do you have a picture you can share of the hinges on your "flipper" doors? My open up but don't stay open (PITA).

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Do you have a picture you can share of the hinges on your "flipper" doors? My open up but don't stay open (PITA).
NVM you provided a link! Doh!
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Make sure that you design them so there is no light leakage. If you are viewing the tank at night, you probably don't want that.

You might be able to do inset doors that swing out and have an inner "bib" to block the light.
Good thought- I'll need to think this one through on how to prevent light leaking out.
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Another note on the canopy - I had to do some last-minute "engineering" on mine, as the wire feet for the light fixture (Nicrew LED+) sat on the edge of tank rim. I had to router out the frame of the canopy to allow it to sit flush on the tank rim. You may run into the same issue, depending on how your lights sit on the tank.
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So the 75 project will be quite the undertaking. I have plenty of decisions to make, such as...

What type of scape, including wood/ rock, etc.?

Exactly what to do with lighting?

Should I get an inline heater?

Black or frosted background?

Timing and transitioning from the 55?

Reuse the BDBS from the 55, supplemented with some new?

I am sure there are other things to think of as well. I would also like to make a canopy for this tank. The design is pending on the lighting and how much, if any at all, cooling I'll need. I figured either way there will be open space in the back for ventilation.

One thought for lighting is to use one Beamswork fixture with two T5HO fixtures. This should give good PAR, but also give some flexibility with coloration. The Beamswork would likely be the 6500K DHL, as it would fit in a canopy (DA FSPEC is a bit longer).

I am excited for where this build will take me, but it is bitter sweet. I'll miss the unique scape of the 55 and will need to challenge myself to do something new with the 75.
Congrats on the new tank.
Its pretty...
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Some more work on the canopy this evening. Did some sanding and added top trim. Really enjoying the wood work, it's been a while. Only downside is that its 30 outside, and not much warmer in the garage! Bringing the canopy in each night so the glue can cure properly.

I want to add some trim to the side as there is a slight, 1/8 gap between the front face and side. I need to look around and see what would work. I need like a 1/4 or 1/2 inch by 1.5 to 2 inch piece of wood. Then I could mount it to the left and right side, overlapping the gap. I didn't properly account for the size of the piano hinge, so that is why the gap is there.

Not sure I want to add any trim to the bottom... torn right now. I like the crisp, clean look it has the way it is below. Simple.

If I mirror the top trim to the bottom I'll need to raise the whole canopy by 1/2 inch from the rim. I could just add some spacers, not a huge deal, but still unsure. The way it sits now the bottom of the canopy completely covers the rim, and I don't want to lose any more viewing space.








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Do you have a table saw in addition to the compound miter saw? Thinking 1/4" x 1" strips cut from some scrap wood could be used as corner trim.


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Grobbins 55 Soon to Be 75 Gallon Rainbowfish Tank

Great change to the tank journal header!
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Do you have a table saw in addition to the compound miter saw? Thinking 1/4" x 1" strips cut from some scrap wood could be used as corner trim.
Good idea. I have access to one, so I'll think this through.
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Great change to the tank journal header!
I had some pretty good inspiration!
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