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I forgot Milleniums. I've got 2 gorgeous males and they are striking. The red is just crazy.
I've got Panda Corys with my Rainbows. There cool, but they need a big group to be social with such active tankmates. I almost bought a group of 5 Zebra loaches the other day. Super cool and so active. The only issue is I have a large group of syno's in my 150 and the aforementioned Corys with my Rainbows.

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As far as a second light, I think its depends on what you want to achieve. I'd say you're right on that a single 48" DA FSPEC is medium light. It will grow most plants pretty well with co2. However, you're not going to be driving them hard like a dutch tank. It depends on what you're looking for: high growth rate, high maintenance or slower growth rate, but healthy plants ( as opposed to no co2 ).

I'm running a single 48" DA FSPEC on my 75g and its enough for my tastes at the moment, but it doesn't get the crazy inch per day growth rates I hear about on tanks with high par.
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So a few updates from this weekend, nothing crazy yet. Finished my stocking, I'll update the first post this week to reflect everything, but added roseline barbs and a school of elegan corrys. So far really enjoying everyone as they settle. Today did a fairly large water change and added in my meds as a preventative measure. Using General Cure and Erythromycin which I plan to keep in the water column for 7 days then will water change.

I should probably run some carbon after that change to make sure all meds are out. I have never used carbon in a canister filter before, so any recommendations would be appreciated. Not sure what brands to go with, and guessing to get something like seachems 'the bag'?

As far as CO2, working on getting the fittings ordered and in, and deciding between the Fabco NV-55 needle valve or a dwyer RMA-151 flow meeter (for the right price...). Either way need to run this tank and the 29 gallon (oh boy is that tank rough right now, pressurized CO2 from DIY about 2 weeks ago and massive algae bloom. Will have to reconfigure ferts, lighting cycle, and do a couple massive back to back water changes to reset, not to mention probably taking lots of the plants out for pruning/ H2O2 sprays).

While on the topic of the 29, what would make more sense, having a new thread for that tank, or updating this one to 'A Tale of Two Tanks'?

Thanks for the feedback on the lighting, I want to keep in the medium for right now. One complaint I have about the FSPEC is the red led's are showing up on the rocks. It's almost as if the lenses isn't wide enough to disperse the light. I suppose for the price of it you can't have it all. Still considering adding one of the RBGW strips later to tune the color more.

No pictures to share tonight, but I'll see if everyone has settled in a bit more tomorrow and try and grab a few of the fish to share.

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Got a deal on a used RMA-151 SSV on the auction site today for $23 shipped. Hope it works well being used, but for the price I had to give it a shot. Seller guaranteed it works, so figured little risk at this point. There are some more on the site right now, but it seems they do not have valves incorporated, just the flow meter. I'll keep and eye out depending on how things go with this one, but would really like to get two of these to keep things consistent, and easy to dial back in after a CO2 refill.

Drop checker for the 55 gallon is on its way also. Slowly but surely getting all the parts in!

Also, found a local company who deals Fabco, Clippard, Dwyer, etc. Talked to a rep there and I can order whatever I need, pick up locally and will not need to worry about the outrageous handling and shipping fees (Clippard and Fabco each had $10 handling for ordering through them!). Now to get my list of fittings, etc. together and grab everything. Then a run to Home Depot to get reactor supplies and air line tubing. Just need to figure out what design I want to go with. As far as the tubing for CO2, I have read almost every post on the CO2 tubing, and have decided that for me, using the cheaper available tubing at Home Depot 3/16 ID 5/16 OD 20 ft for under $5 would be best. Not too worried about line loss, permeation, or pressure (rated 55 PSI max).

I'll work on getting a few pictures this afternoon/ evening!
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Here are a few shots. Too bright in the room right now so get lots of reflections. More photos another time that I'll take after the sun goes down.

Bright side is I super thinned out the 29 gallon tank (1 pic also included- after only), had way too much plant mass, and was just out of whack. I need to figure out some crypts that don't grow so tall and some decent stems for the 29. Also cleaned up and replanted the s-repins. Hope they take hold and take off! The dwarf hairgrass is rocking pretty good. Did a H2O2 treatment to that and the anubias nana. Things should dial in after this scrub. EI dosing, and thinking I'll do micro macro on the same day, just deciding on 2 or 3 times per week. Would really like to dial in good and not need anything chemical to prevent algae in the future, though in the past had used excel.

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Looks like you are getting somewhere now. You will enjoy the Dwyer once you get it set up. To me, much better than a bubble counter.

Curious did you get those Boesemani from a couple different sources??

I notice that most have a yellowish tail, but one is a really nice orange?

And the Roselines are a very nice addition.


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Looks like you are getting somewhere now. You will enjoy the Dwyer once you get it set up. To me, much better than a bubble counter.

Curious did you get those Boesemani from a couple different sources??

I notice that most have a yellowish tail, but one is a really nice orange?

And the Roselines are a very nice addition.
Thanks, really enjoying the roseline interacting in the tank. I did use two different stores for the rainbows. The one where I got the bright orange one only had the one Male.

I am not sure on the sex of the others. Are they female, or low grade males mixed in? Will the colors come in more down the road?

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Thanks, really enjoying the roseline interacting in the tank. I did use two different stores for the rainbows. The one where I got the bright orange one only had the one Male.

I am not sure on the sex of the others. Are they female, or low grade males mixed in? Will the colors come in more down the road?

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Hard to tell from the pictures, but the more yellow ones look like two females/two males.

The colors will not change much. The yellowish ones will stay yellowish, the bright orange one will get even brighter orange. A good example of breeding, and the different strains that are available.

The more orange one is most likely the Lake Aytingo variety.


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Thanks for the overview. Still have a lot to learn about rainbows. Read a lot and saw YouTube videos explaining it, but seeing it is another thing. The one orange on is really nice, but I do still enjoy the yellow ones too!

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Today the RMA-151 came in, so I decided to test it on the 29 gallon tank. I'll end up needing a bit of advice by the end of this.

Off the Aquatek regulator, I used a 1/8 NPT female coupling to a 1/8 NPT 1/8 ID barbed fitting (this will eventually T-off to two barbed fittings- need to test the whole setup). Then I run into the RMA-151, to a Clippard check valve ( MCV-1BB-V with two 10-32 to barbed fitting) and then into the diffuser in the tank. I used Everbuilt .170 ID tubing from Home Depot to connect everything. It's a fit, but possibly a little loose? Using bubbles (soapy water) I check for leaks, and everything is good, MINUS the Clippard check valve.

Now here comes where I might need advice. What could be causing the leak? My guess is that its the tubing that is .170 ID. Should I be using 1/8 ID (.125) tubing instead of this? What about this (https://www.amazon.com/ATP-Vinyl-Fle...F8+id+tubing)?

Or could the issue be that the 10-32 barbed fitting only has one barb? I cannot imagine that is the issue, my guess would be more towards the ID of my current tubing is too big. Thoughts are appreciated on this one!
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In case anyone is curious, .170 ID tubing does NOT work with 1/8 ID brass barbs. CO2 turned on this morning and after 10 min the line on the barb off the regulator blew off. Thankfully I was in the room when it happened and shut CO2 down for the day, did an excel dose, and cut the lights to low. The 1/8 ID tubing should be here tomorrow (Home Depot and Lowes do not carry it besides bright orange fuel line). 100 ft for about $12 (see link above). I could have purchased the Clippard tubing at about $20 for 100 ft, even had it in my hand (oh hindsight) - I just hope the stuff from Amazon works, otherwise super expensive tubing lesson. Hopefully someone else can at least learn from my mistakes!
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Just a quick update tonight. I ended up redoing the hardscape, adding 5lbs of lava rock under the BDBS to make a tall slope, and try and aid in prevention of compacting sand. I again used my homemade substrate supports to try and keep everything in place nicely. Hopefully this works!

The water Sprite is just in there for now, probably not part of the long term play for the tank, and definitely not there, thought it might be good to start to have a fast growing plant like that to help balance.

I have also added the CO2 as of today. Created a DIY cerges style reactor as seen on other posts on TPT. So far seems pretty good. Have not yet had a dull day running it so, and figure it will take a bit of time to dial it in. Want to be conservative as not to cause any issues with an accidental overdose. Right now running 40PSI into it at about 20cc/min.

As far as plants, I'll most likely do some dwarf sagittaria foreground in the middle to left side. Thinking maybe s.repins between the rocks up high right? Or maybe that is too close to the light for them, and do something like montecarlo? Looking for suggestions there.

Right now in my 29 gallon I have the dwarf sagittaria converting from emersed form, as well as some new stems of rotala wallichii, ludwigia peruensis, and ludwigia broadleaf I grabbed yesterday from the lfs. Thinking the peruensis would be a good plant for this tank with its bigger size.

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Some updates to the tank, which is now far more planted, but not yet complete (are we ever 'complete'?). Note- I know there needs to be some maintenance done, as there is some slight algae. I think I am finishing up a diatoms phase right now, and just recently got some green hair algae (I think?). I attribute this to running the CO2 for a about a week or two with no real plant mass, and with that no dry dosing of ferts. Wanted to work on dialing in the CO2 level before the next step. That being said, I think I have found a good spot, where the flow meter is running about 14 cc/min at 40psi into the reactor. Getting the light green color I desire now, and have it on the same timer set-up as the 29 gallon.

I am still running a bag a carbon I put in a couple weeks ago to strip meds out. Also running 2 bags of purigen. This is the first time I am using it in the hobby, and first year of planted tanks, so we will see how I feel about it. Reading through other posts it seems people love it. @Greggz I saw you put the purigen back in as well in your journal, so I'll be sure to keep following along to learn more.

I have also been running the UV a little bit every week. My concern with running 100% is reading/seeing YouTube videos of the UV bulb actually eating away at the SunSun baskets. I don't want to run into that. I did have a little green water outbreak in the 29 gallon this week as the dwarf sag was melting as it transitioned to submerged form. Some of that translated over to the 55, but two days of UV and it seems to be under control. I'll keep it off for now, and probably run it for a day post every water change.

Side note, the 29 gallon is getting a SunSun 702 this week (with UV), so that is exciting to change to that from a HOB. Should help out a lot of things.

Here is what I am dosing currently in the pictures below. For some reason, I cannot seem to figure out how to make the pictures show up in the body of the post...

For plants, most everything was stated out in my 29 gallon to get it going, and has now been moved over (besides the monte carlo and crypt wendtii bronz which were planted right in the 55). Here is the plant list:

Current:
ludwigia peruensis
ludwigia ovalis
rotala wallichii
dwarf sagittaria
water sprite- will come out
crypt undulata red
crypt wendtii bronze
micranthemum monte carlo

To be added
staurogyne repens- growing out in 29 gallon
some other stems- not sure, will see what the LFS has, or the for sale/ RAOK section of the forum has.

Finally, for anyone who enjoys cameras (I am learning more about my DSLR every day) here is what I am using. Note, that pictures were taken during the day with lots of ambient light, and I am by no means a professional. Just used auto-focus this time.

Camera- Nikon D3300
Lens- AF-S NIKKOR 18-55mm
Filter- Vivitar CPL (helps with glare, really amazing and the reason I did not use my Galaxy S8 phone camera today)

I think that covers just about everything right now.
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Almost forgot to include a FTS...
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Sharing this thread I started on my SunSun filter...

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