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and so it begins, my 40 breeder

This will be my log of progress.
Tank info:
40 gallon breeder with external overflow
20 gallon sump
GLO T5HO (twin bulb) with Coralife Colormax and 6,700k bulbs (suspended)
misc equipment: heater, pump...Co2 might be in the future, but not right now

Substrate:
bottom layer is Laterite
middle layer is potting soil (miracle grow organic choice)
Topped with Aqua Terra sand (most likely black)

Plant list:
4ea.- Water Wisteria (Hygrophila Difformis)
4ea.- Stargrass (Heteranthera Zosterfolia)
4ea.- Ludwigia Natans (Ludwigia Repens)
4ea.- Cabomba Caroliniana (Cabomba, Green)
3ea.- Bacopa Australis
2ea.- Bacopa Caroliniana
3ea.- Bacopa Monnieri
3ea.- SM Malaysian Driftwood
1ea.- Malaysian Driftwood (10"-15")
2ea.- Echinodorus Ozelot Pot LG
2ea.- Java Moss (Vesicularia Dubyana)
3ea.- Nymphaea Stellata Bulbs (Dwarf Lily)
2ea.- Aponogeton Capuronii
4ea.- Dwarf Hairgrass on Lava Rock (Eleocharis Parvula)
1ea.- Cryptocoryne Wendtii Bronze lg clump
1ea.- Cryptocoryne Wendtii Red
4ea.- Anubias Barteri Var. Broadleaf
1ea.- Cryptocoryne Undulata Pot

Livestock:
Mainly live bearers. Lyretail Mollies, Red Platies, Guppies...the more color the better. A small school of cardinal tetras is possible. 2-3 Nanus Cory cats to help with algae and other "crap", along with Amano and Red Cherry shrimp.

Pics are not available right now...nothing to show yet. I am going to wait until I get back from the holiday break to start the tank. I wanted to get everything down on paper so that it's easier for me later on.

I must thank David at Sweet Aquatics for helping me get this far. He has been a big help.

More to come...

ps. A number of people have asked me why I am using a sump. So, here's the answer. There are a number of reasons. First and formost, I hate seeing equipment in the display tank. Heaters, pumps, filters, powerheads...to me these take away from the natural look of things. A sump solves this problem. It also adds in more water, and as I learned a number of years ago, the more water there is in the system, the easier it is to keep water quality constant. Lastly, I'm cheap. This was my species saltwater tank where I housed my peacock mantis shrimp. I didn't want to have to buy another tank, then a canister filter, and inline heater.

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Great plan so far.

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Slight changes. No more laterite. After a little more research, and talking with David, the potting soil will do more than enough so the laterite isn't needed.
And, as most of us do, I decided not to wait until I get back from vacation. What good is an auto top off if you don't use it. Once the plants arive, I'll get things running.

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Great start! I use potting soil in all my tanks, and you're right: it'll provide more than enough nutrients for the plants.

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Well, everything is set up and ready to go. No plants though. They did not ship my order because of the weather. They also won't be around next week, so hopefully things will be ok to ship beginning of January. I'm glad they are making sure everything arrives ok, but at the same time I'm tired of looking at an empty tank.

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I'm looking forward to hearing about your progress. I think I'm doing the dry start method in my 40 breeder. I'll be using soil and sand as well.
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I got confirmation that my plant order shipped this week. Looks like it will be showing up today. Honestly I was hoping it would show up tomorrow, since I have more time compaired to today. But, I'll just have to deal with it. Depending on how they are packed, I might wait until tomorrow to plant them. We'll see.


Edit: Ok, plants are here. I'm going to do a little work on the tank during my lunch break. I remembered to grab my camera from home, but didn't remember to grab the computer cable, so you all will have to wait until tonight to see some pictures.

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As promised, here are a few pics. I had to change a few things, but the last few pics are how it is set up right now. I might have to move things around as the plants spread out a little from being packaged.











First setup of the small pieces of driftwood. I tried to hide one of the returns. It worked well, but because of how the return system is set up, I would have a really bad back siphon. I had to change it.





The planting begins:




And here it is finished for the day. Small changes will be made over the next few days. Sorry for all the bubbles on the glass and sand. I didn't feel like clearing them away before taking the pictures.
The empty space on back right side is where the dwarf lily bulbs are planted.





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The pictures aren't showing up for some reason.
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The pictures aren't showing up for some reason.
Is anyone else having issues? Let me know and I'll link the photo album. I've used 3 computers to make sure they worked and they all show up.

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I see them fine. I wish I understood sumps. I've always liked the idea of using one.
Feel free to PM me with any questions you have on them. I've been using them for the past 5 years. I wouldn't have a tank without one.

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No new pics right now, but I've gotten thought the melting stage. New growth is showing up everwhere. THe cabomba furcata is flowering constantly. I'm starting to get some nice reds on different plants. Tannis is leaching out of the driftwood. When I purchased it I was told that there might be a little left, but the majority would have been worked out. They were right. I've seen some that were extremely brown. My water has a slight tint. It actually gives it a more natural look. Water is almost ready for fish. I'll puchase some cardinal tetras from aquabid (local store doesn't carry them). Then I'll add the mollies/guppies, and finally the 2 rams. Shrimp will be added sometime. CO2 wasn't going to be added for a while, but it's hard to past a great deal. I'll have a paintball setup in the near future. I'm thinking 1-2bps. Not much...just a little push. Pics will be up in the next few days. I need to clean some of the dead plant material out first.

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Most of the fish are in. Not much of a variety right now. 4 different types of male guppies, total of 9. 9 female guppies with one already in the tank. One freshwatwer goby. Male and female blue ram. One bamboo shrimp and 4 cherry red shrimps. I need to get on aquabid and get more shrimp. I'll let that go for a while before I purchase the cardinal tetras. Co2 stuff (tank, regulator with gauge and needle valve) should be coming in soon. Drop checker is in already. Just need to purchase a diffuser.

It's kind of funny coming from saltwater to have this many fish in the tank...and not being able to find most of them because of the plants.

Just found 10 guppy fry swimming around. The self sustaining/self stocking tank has begun.

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