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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 11-24-2017, 11:44 PM Thread Starter
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Blue Neocaridina, 10g, Start to Finish. (An unexpected tank)

Well.... I made some impulsive decisions today. I Built a last second tank and put money down to hold a small colony of Blue Neocaridina Shrimp while the tank cycles. Gotta love black Friday prices.

Here are the stats:
(Will be updated as we go)

Tank Size:
10 gallon Aqueon complete kit.

Co2:
None

Lighting:
Aqueon 10 gallon LED hood

Filter:
Aqueon 10 gallon HOB filter

Heater:
Fluval 100w digital heater (trust this way more then the 10 gallon nightmare heater they had in the kit.)

Substrate:
1" of CaribSea Eco Complete Planted Aquarium Substrate.
1.5" of Imaginarium white sand.

Hardscape:
1
2
1 Unknown wooden log

Plants:
6 Green Crypt
4 Red Crypt
1 Dwarf Sag
1 large Water Sprite, 2 small Water Sprite
Duckweed

Fish:
None

Inverts:
4 Ghost Shrimp (Cycling tank and being a water monitor)
7 Malaysian Trumpet Snails
15 Blue Neocaridina Shrimp (pending cycle)


Going for a relatively quick cycle here. Yes I know it's not smart... I used 6 gallons of water from the existing Neocaridina colony to seed the tank, 2 gallons of treated tap. Added water Sprite and decomposing mulberry leaf from existing tanks.

The Process:

1. Clean empty tank.
2. Add planted substrate layer.
3. Add inert sand layer.
4. Fill tank with established tank water, using a plate on bottom of tank to not disrupt and mix sand.
5. Seachem Stability and Tetra Safe Start and an additional 2-3 gallons of water.
6. Ran to store, buy rocks and wood.
7. Place stones and driftwood.
8. Add water sprite and decomposing mulberry leaves.
9. Wait a few days to pick up the new Blue neo colony.
Tada!!
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 11-25-2017, 02:34 AM
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Two problems.

1. Water from another tank won't do anything for cycling a new tank. If you swapped over some of the filter media, then you'd be in business.

2. Quick cycle is playing Russian Roulette. It won't be as stable as doing a full cycle and for shrimp...the tank will be void of biofilm which is the shrimp's primary source of food.


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Two problems.

1. Water from another tank won't do anything for cycling a new tank. If you swapped over some of the filter media, then you'd be in business.

2. Quick cycle is playing Russian Roulette. It won't be as stable as doing a full cycle and for shrimp...the tank will be void of biofilm which is the shrimp's primary source of food.
Correct. I have added some filter media and the water was from a deep siphon which I've used in the past as a fairly reliable cycling method, (pulling the bacteria from the soil). Hopefully it still works. The other reason was to ensure the parameters are similar to my other tanks. It makes water changes easier.

Yes, I'm aware it's definitely less then ideal and very risky. This was an absolute impulse buy, after an offer I couldn't refuse showed up. I've actually, convienently been cultivating a fine mat of... Some sort of algae/mossy something/ film that was hanging from the output of the large tank's filter and moved it into the new tank as well, to Kickstart things further.

We'll see how it goes. The shop owner is holding onto the colony for a few days while I get things going.

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Did you go to the Fish Mike's black Friday sale? I wanted to go, but my tanks not near ready. He had some really cool shrimp last time I went.
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I did go to Fish Mike's. Bought all the Blues he had and most of his Crypt plants. They're staying in his tank until mine is stable.

Purchased 15 Blues, some are Rili, some more black. It'll be a fun tank, not necessarily for breeding, like my oranges.

Here is the progress from yesterday:

I added in 6 green crypt plants, 4 red crypt, a scoop of duckweed, 3 water sprite and 1 dwarf saggitaria .

In addition, a handful of Malaysian trumpet snails and a few ghost shrimp to help monitor water quality.

Water quality is good so far. Hopefully we'll be shrimp safe soon.
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I would think you could pull it off if you were successful in getting some good mulm in there. My second area of concern related to biofilm could also be addressed by a big mat of moss. It doesn't have to be pretty. I'm not sure if it grows faster as I don't see how it could, but moss that comes out of my shrimp tank is always the nicest and healthiest even when it's coming out of a high tech fertilized setup. If you test your water after a couple days and you're cycled I would spend the $10 or so on a big softball of any kind of moss. My shrimp prefer moss to any prepared food I have tried. They also seem emboldened by it. I started with a couple groups of carbon Rili and had ALOT of losses. I didn't think any survived. When I started packing more and more moss in there for the Gertrudes all of a sudden I saw 10+ shrimp... and it's not much more than a 10 gallon tank..

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