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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-21-2017, 05:25 AM Thread Starter
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Orange Neo Shrimp Colony. Start to success. 29g, Planted. (Athletes Aquarium)

The evolution of my first tank after half a decade off of the hobby.

Current Stats:
(Will update as things change).

Tank size:
29 gallon.

Co2:
Fluval Mini 20G pressurized with Co2 Diffuser. (NEED TO UPGRADE) not in use.

Lighting:
Finnex Planted 24/7 SE 30"

Filter:
HOB 45 gallon with Sponge.

Heater:
Aqueon 100 watt

Substrate:
32lbs of CaribSea Eco Complete Planted Aquarium substrate.
7lbs of black sand.
2 cups of granite gravel as filler.

Hardscape:
2 large 12" long pieces of wood, positioned as walls to raise substrate. Various mopani and bogwood features.
Very minor lava rock features for planting rhizomes.

Plants:
2 Various Swords, pending identification, 1 medium, 1 very small.
3 Anubias plants, pending identification, 1 large, 1 medium and 1 small.
2 Crypt plants
2 Java Fern clusters.
7 Bucephalandra, Small.
9 small clusters of M. Crenata, forming a carpet.
9 small A. Reineckii, forming a bush
2 Java moss patches.

Fish:
6 Otocinclus catfish

Inverts and others:
Orange Neocaridina Shrimp 3 male, 6 (4 painted, 2 low grade) female, ?? juvenile.
3 Assassin snails( Removed to treat Hydra )

Updated 11/18/17
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I've been bitten by the aquarium bug. Couldn't take the barren simple landscape..

Buying more plants and really getting into this project!
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Plants are growing, water is clean and the shrimp are happy.

Added some more hair grass behind the stump. It's growing much nicer then the original patch. The shrimp tend to like the Browning grass much better, but spend alot of time cleaning the strands regardless of it's age or health.

Did some pruning on the Anubias and am seeing new leaves shooting up.
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Goodbye Marineland Advanced LED, Hello Finnex Planted 24/7 SE!!

What an epic lighting system!!

Very excited to have it.
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Adding in some Bucephalandra plants!
First time working with flourish glue. Learned quickly to speckle gravel/dust from the hardscape, into the glue to avoid large white patches of glue.

4 small plants on the lava rock to the right, 3 small plants on the wooden cliff to the left.

Very excited to be putting some of the final touches on this tank. Last big idea removing the half log with the java ferns, and adding a carpet for the tank floor or some low bushes Infront of the wooden cliff on the right.

Trying to figure out a good Co2 system. Right now my KH is too low and needs to be fixed before I can run my current Co2, or upgrade to an appropriate one. (Using a fluval mini 20gallon.
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First attempt at adding a carpet and some color!

Bought some of Tropica's 1-2 Grow cultures,
2 cultures of Marsilea crenata
1 culture of Alternanthera reineckii 'Mini'

Divided and planted the cultures, placed a few flourish root tabs under the soil beforehand.

Hopefully they take on the first try.

I planted them at first using 12" tongs but found that they were not staying put. Ended up rinsing my hands off with tap water, drying my hands and then pushing the clumps into the sand with my fingers, then guiding the sand back up onto the root system.

As of 24 hours later, no floaters.
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It's been a productive week or so.
The A. Reineckii and M. Crenata are growing in well. My M. Crenata is spreading and beginning to carpet, while the A. Reineckii is bushy as desired. The hairgrass is creating it's own forest and the crypts and Bucephalandra are sprouting new leaves. Oo and my java moss is filling in.

I dosed my tank with FenBendazol, 0.25G dosage, once. My Hydra issue cleared up within 72 hours. I do however still see thick white worms and hairlike white worms. I've been told it should be fine for now.

My assassin snails have taken up residence in the QT tank for now and are being fed any snails I manage to catch.

No mysterious deaths recently..knock on wood. I've lowered my water temp gradually from 77F to 72F, as well as begun addressing a GH issue.

I have one berried female, (purchased a lower quality, berried female, lovingly named "mama shrimp" ) and a lower grade male. I then promptly lost another of the seemingly painted oranges.. who don't seem to have interest in breeding.

Tank total is 6 now. 2 low grade orange, 4 higher grade orange.

Oto cats are doing well.

I'm very pleased with how it's coming out, particularly the right side.
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Things are going well! It's been a while without deaths, all shrimp are happy. I've added 3 additional neos to the tank, 2 male and 1 female. Hopefully this will Kickstart the breeding.

My original neos show no signs of breeding, perhaps they're all males?
Anyway. Things are good. I feel dropping temp And adjusting GH was a solid plan. Killing the Hydra with FenBendazol probably didn't hurt.
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Wow!! What an exciting day for the Orange colony!!

Today around 1200-1300 I noticed all my male shrimp. (Convienently, only my new additions from the lower grade stock, seem to be males, meaning all my original shrimp are indeed female) we're going absolutely crazy, swimming frantically around the tank.

In addition, one of my original, painted oranges has a deeply curved belly and looks slightly larger.. molt??

At 1730, I made an exciting discovery! The low grade orange female I purchased berried, has only two eggs left, and to top it off, I saw one of the baby shrimp for the first time!!!

1930 , the large painted orange female is berried!! I'm praying she keeps the clutch! She seems to have so many that they're practically spilling out. I noticed she was berried because it appeared there were eggs sitting on the leaf below her, but she then moved, dragging them slightly before tucking them back inside and swimming off.

Hatchings and berried shrimp, all on the day I happen to be home for doctors appointments. Wow!!
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Well, usually when things seem too good to be true, they are.

Around 2200 last night, I check in on the tank and noticed the painted orange female didn't appear to have eggs overflowing from her swimmerettes. This was the best look I could get at the time.

This morning at 0830, I got an up close look and though she is still fanning her swimmerettes, I can see no eggs.

Hopefully the hatchlings from yesterday are fine. I don't think I'll see any for a while since they're so tiny and clear.

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So, it's been a few days since all the commotion.

My painted orange female who was breifly berried, is still fanning... Maybe there's an egg or two way up high where we can't see through the shell..

My original mama shrimp has finally finished hatching her eggs and is getting ready for round 2.

A few nights ago, I spotted a baby shrimp near the Anubias log, on the left side. It was right after hatching. This encounter lasted about 40 seconds before it recreated into the tangle of Anubias roots beneath the wooden hardscape.

One night I turned on a flashlight quickly to look in and scared a baby shrimp out of the Crypt plants that hug the glass on the far right, along the wooden cliff.

Last night (11/17/17) I set my lights from MAX (normal setting) to a very dim, low light. (1-5% max) and left it for a few hours while I went off to work a short shift. I came home and found a baby shrimp by the Bucephalandra on the left side, exploring the wooden hardscape (3-6" from the Anubias plants where the first sighting took place). An Oto cat promptly swam through, brushing the shrimplette away and I couldn't regain eyes on the little dude or dudette.

This morning, with lights creeping up towards max, I found a shrimp chilling on the sponge that covers the intake tube. It has been my fear that my sponge may not have been fine enough, but after about 5 min of staring at the shrimp statue, it walked away and has disappeared back into the tank.

I was very nervous that when topping off water two nights ago, I added the mineralizer infused water too abruptly and had killed the babies.

I thought his because I found 4 adult molts yesterday morning. I've read however that young shrimp adapt better to water changes.

Side note: the shrimplettes are growing as I find the occasional mini molt (keeps scaring me.. baby shrimp are clear... Molts are clear..)

I've added a mulberry leaf to the tank, it's been soaking about 2 days now, in the tank. Shrimp don't seem to like or dislike it, yet. (I was going to soak it in the QT tank, but that tank has an Hydra outbreak, which I'm currently experimenting with... Muwhaha.)

I'm also toying with the idea of feeding Hikari First bites to the shrimp.. though.. mine is expired.

That's all for now. Back to work..
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While hunting for snails, I found two baby shrimp, at the same time. Odds are looking good that a large number have hatched successfully.
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11/20/17, 16:56

I got home and noticed the males are going crazy again. There's a low grade female all saddled up and ready to go, hiding under a leaf, under the spray of the filter, the males are searching wildly for her.

I left the lights down low today, seeing if it would make any difference with me seeing more baby shrimp, not sure if it has, but I have located two baby shrimp and finally gotten a decent picture.

Off to job #2. Tomorrow I start at a better paying job and Friday is the last day at one of my current ones. Hopefully this will allow for some down time or higher income to get more shrimp... Thinking of turning the QT tank into a 7.5 for shrimp... Hmm. I'm not buying any new shrimp or fish unless they all die... So maybe. I also have a spare, spare tank...

Need to top off evaporation.. don't have any RO water though.. I'm down 3" and dont want minerals to build up..
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