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hi all... it has been almost 9 years, but the bug has hit me again. Lots have happened. I still have my ADA 120P, albeit, nothing like it used to be. But that is a different story that will be retold as well.


Today, its a new set up that I am excited about. I recently purchased a 120 gallon long tank (72" by 18" footprint) and am super excited about setting up a planted set up. I have been planning this for several months and have been going through many ideas. One day I want discus, next day red head tapajos, next day angels, the day after all of the above. One day I want all one nutrient rich substrate, next day half that and sand and the day after all sand. You get the picture.


Here is where things stand as of today. I already have the tank in my office (home office). It has water in it and driftwood soaking (manzanita). One of the wood has sunk, the other still floating, the water is all tea color, but there is no fish in there (see pic below). I am not going to do anything until the second wood has sunk. I will start with the hardscape then. There is no fish in there at the moment. My one goal for this tank is that I want to keep it running for a while, at least 5 years or more (unless of course I have to move for some unforeseen reason). That's it for now, I will slowly but surely add details.


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I would start adding some form of ammonia in there now to get the cycle going. I mistakenly though using a cycled filter would cycle my tank instantly. I lost about $100 in fish...
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I would start adding some form of ammonia in there now to get the cycle going. I mistakenly though using a cycled filter would cycle my tank instantly. I lost about $100 in fish...


good thought, thanks, I was debating, but I think I will and start running a temporary HOB

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After much consideration, here is what I decided on for stocking so far:

- 12 Juvie Angels (pterophyllum scalare) - currently sourcing
- Pair of pelvicachromis taeniatus kienke - will add when available
- 20+ Panda Cory (Corydoras Panda) - will add when available
- 22 Gold Tetras (Hemigrammus rodwayi) - already have in my existing tank (my absolute favorite tetra)
- 7 Buenos Aires Tetra (Hyphessobrycon anisitsi) - already have in another tank - these are huge, have had them for 2 years now

Considering the following as well:

- 20 Marbled Hatchetfish (Carnegiella strigata)
- Pair of Hoduran Red Point (Archocentrus sp. "honduran red point")
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- 6 Bolivian Rams (Mikrogeophagus altispinosus)

What do you guys think?

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Do your Buenos Aires tetras not eat your plants? When I attempted them they ate every single plant I attempted. Including mosses and java fern


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this group has been in a non planted tank, so, I have no clue, did not realize they munch on plants, do others have the same experience?


if so, I may have to exclude them from this tanks stocking plan

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this group has been in a non planted tank, so, I have no clue, did not realize they munch on plants, do others have the same experience?


if so, I may have to exclude them from this tanks stocking plan
Yep... plant eaters... I think the rest of the stock sounds awesome. I would really like some Honduran Red Points at some point. I'm currently on an Apisto thing though
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Yep... plant eaters... I think the rest of the stock sounds awesome. I would really like some Honduran Red Points at some point. I'm currently on an Apisto thing though


thanks for confirming, I have done some more research and found the same information, alas, I guess they will stay out of this tank, they really have stunning colors, just means room for something else


I rarely see Honduran Red Points in LFS here, I think I only saw them once, but I am sure I can get my hands on them, I am also skeptical sometimes as there are convict and HRP hybrids sold as HRP, hoping I will get a true pair

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this group has been in a non planted tank, so, I have no clue, did not realize they munch on plants, do others have the same experience?


if so, I may have to exclude them from this tanks stocking plan


not a problem in my heavily planted 40 though probably couldn't tell..
Only 5 though.



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thanks for confirming, I have done some more research and found the same information, alas, I guess they will stay out of this tank, they really have stunning colors, just means room for something else


I rarely see Honduran Red Points in LFS here, I think I only saw them once, but I am sure I can get my hands on them, I am also skeptical sometimes as there are convict and HRP hybrids sold as HRP, hoping I will get a true pair
There are a few reputable breeders on Aquabid. You could probably source most of those from the same place so the overnight shipping doesn't sting so badly. You may have to take the same steps with the pelvicachromis taeniatus. I've also heard of Kribs eating plants. That's what turned me off from them. I would think Apisto's would be a better fit than Africans (kribs). HRP's are central american where as the others are south american (angels and Apisto's).
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jeffkrol, beautiful fish and tank, looks like you have an mbuna in there too!! how are you convincing these fish to leave plants alone, I need your secret

Dude1, any names of breeders on aquabid? I have never bought from there

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jeffkrol, beautiful fish and tank, looks like you have an mbuna in there too!! how are you convincing these fish to leave plants alone, I need your secret

Dude1, any names of breeders on aquabid? I have never bought from there
no idea.. Bought them on a whim.. As my wife bought the "blue meanie" on a whim.
Found out about the plant eating after the purchase. Tank was way overgrown so figured they would maybe be my gardeners.. Never touched a plant ..ever.. AFAICT..
Feed them 3x a day though..
Keeps the ciclid aggression down as well..

Only one he now really pesters is an algea eater who has learned to rest int the "trees"..
Killed most of the fish in the 20 so had to move him to the 40B.

Maybe the cichlid just keeps them closer to the surface so less grazing..

bottom line though is I don't think mine were primary plant eaters. Could depend on how/where they were hatched and reared..

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ahh... makes more sense, no magic afterall!

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There are a few reputable breeders on Aquabid. You could probably source most of those from the same place so the overnight shipping doesn't sting so badly. You may have to take the same steps with the pelvicachromis taeniatus. I've also heard of Kribs eating plants. That's what turned me off from them. I would think Apisto's would be a better fit than Africans (kribs). HRP's are central american where as the others are south american (angels and Apisto's).


I do think apisto's are amazing and would be a perfect fit, but I am just dying to try the taeniatus, the thing with cribs is they will dig, I plan on keeping this tank mostly sand bottom, with most plants on driftwood and rocks, so that the digging has no real impact on the plants, we will see, im still deciding on the substrate and may change the stocking plan or substrate plan according to stocking

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bunch of they don't eat plants posts..

BTW : Thanks for the compliment.. goes through pretty and ugly stages..I'm not as dedicated as I should be..

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WetSpot is a safe bet. I hear nothing but good things about them. If you get the Kribs I would give the plants a head start and like you said lots of anubias and ferns. Quite frankly with a little time I think youd be fine with crypts too. They develop pretty good root structures quickly. Are you going to inject CO2?
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