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Aubie's 4 gallon cube

Wanted to get a small cube for my home office, and ultimately plan to stock with Orange Sakura Neo's and maybe some OEBT (as they seem to tolerate the same water parameters as Neo's) for a nice little orange and blue Auburn theme.

Tank: Ultum Nature Systems 4.1 gallon cube
Light: Finnex FugeRay Planted+ Clip-light
Filter: Eheim 2211
Jadli Lily Pipes: 10 mm spin outflow, 13 mm inflow
Substrate: Flourite Dark
Hardscape: 2 pieces of driftwood (not sure what kind, snagged it from my LFS), and Dragon stone
Ferts: PPS-Pro (may supplement with Excel, but probably not)
Flora: Java moss, 3 types of bucephalandra (green tears, catherinae red mini, kedagang purple), 2 types of java fern (regular and lace leaf), crypt. lucens, microsword, and anubias short and sharp.
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So, I need to get a heater for the aquarium and after looking through the site the 3 heaters that seem to get a lot of recommendations seem to be:

1. Arceae ADA mini heater - $29
https://aquaforestaquarium.com/produ...25w-ultra-slim

2. Catalina Titanium heater - $29
https://www.amazon.com/Watt-Catalina.../dp/B005S0WSXO

3. Cobalt Neo-therm - $36
https://www.amazon.com/Cobalt-Aquati.../dp/B008AGWZCC

I'm leaning towards the ADA heater as it's the smallest one (but only being able to find one review of it does concern me). I wanted to see if anyone had any recommendations for the other two? People seem to really like the Cobalt heater, but it's the biggest one and is the most expensive.

thanks in advance!
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First water parameter tests show I've cycled the tank in 4 days!

But seriously, Ammonia and Nitrite are both 0, meaning my cycle hasn't begun. Threw some algae wafers in as well as some pond snails that were hanging out in my other tank, hopefully that'll be a good source for some initial ammonia to get things started.

pH is 7.5 (expected) and TDS was only 150 ppm (which is a little lower than I expected as my other tank fluctuates between 220 and 260 ppm).

Ordered the Achaea 25 watt mini heater and another Jardli outflow lily pipe (https://petspawsplus.com/products/gl...m-planted-tank). The jardli spin lily pipe killed ALL the flow coming out. I know the spin design is supposed to dampen a lot of the flow and is especially nice for nano tanks, but man, no flow was coming out.

Hopefully the new pipe will work out better.
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Cobalt heaters are the best in my book. I have had a few over the years and never had any issues, but I see that you already ordered the Achaea.


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looks neat, nice tank! using any quick starting methods?! or going with normal nitrogen cycle?


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I would look into the hydor eth200. The violet with be too much flow for that small tank. I believe.


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I would look into the hydor eth200. The violet with be too much flow for that small tank. I believe.


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Nah, it should be ok. She can reduce the outflow if needed since he/she uses an eheim 2211 canister filter.
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I have a 2213 with a violet and just switched over to a spin because all my plants were getting blown around. Yes you can reduce it, but it's nice having a filter running at full potential.


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Or you could try this JARDLI 10 mm lily pipe.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M4O6RNQ...ing=UTF8&psc=1
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looks neat, nice tank! using any quick starting methods?! or going with normal nitrogen cycle?
going with regular cycle (added some food and a couple of pond snails as source of ammonia), but I guess we'll see if I get the normal ammonia spike; plants may consume ammonia as it's produced.

Regardless, I'll test for 2-3 weeks to see what happens before adding any shrimp.

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Nah, it should be ok. She can reduce the outflow if needed since he/she uses an eheim 2211 canister filter.
Yep, that's my plan. Want to see how strong the flow is with the violet and the 2211 running at full bore and then back off to a flow I'm happy with. The spin is nice, but there's absolutely no flow/current at the front right of the tank given the placement of the driftwood.

Also, if I position the outflow on the opposite side of the tank, I'm hoping the violet will be strong enough to produce some strong flow over the buce; I've read where they like a good current.

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Or you could try this JARDLI 10 mm lily pipe.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M4O6RNQ...ing=UTF8&psc=1
It came down to the pipe I bought and the one you linked. I ultimately decided against the latter b/c it would stick out a full inch more than the violet pipe.

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going with regular cycle (added some food and a couple of pond snails as source of ammonia), but I guess we'll see if I get the normal ammonia spike; plants may consume ammonia as it's produced.
Even if the plants consume little of ammonia you'll still be getting the ammonia spike, all my tanks that are sized differently are fully planted and I still got ammonia spikes on all of them.


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Hey I'm glad your starting your tank. I'm all honesty it looked so much bigger in your hardscape suggestions thread. Now that I know it's a 4 gallon I'm kind of shocked it was really that small of a piece of wood. Glad you got it going so fast.
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There is a 25watt Cobalt Neotherm.


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There is a 25watt Cobalt Neotherm.
Oops, meant to link to the 25W neo-therm in the post above. That is the one I considered, and almost bought. The size (6.5 vs. 4.5 inches) ultimately lead me to go with the Archaea. Hard to pass up how well reviewed the neo-therms are vs. the 1 review I was able to find for the Archaea.
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added some food and a couple of pond snails
I think you're gonna regret putting those pond snails in, in about a month. Lol

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